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Post by schumi on Nov 7, 2009 8:02:36 GMT
SHEFFIELD owner Neil Machin wants to see the Premier Trophy competition scrapped – and start the season with meaningful league meetings.
Machin will present his proposals to colleagues at the sport’s AGM in Bournemouth next week which would mean an enlarged championship format to decide the league title.
He said: “We have to give the fans what they want and I feel this proposal is worthy of some discussion at the very least.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 12:24:30 GMT
He said: “We have to give the fans what they want When have the powers that be ever done that? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 12:58:07 GMT
Holy Moly, not A and B fixtures surely  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 15:10:42 GMT
Holy Moly, not A and B fixtures surely Bloody better not be as that would mean around 60 meetings for each club if Leicester join the PL next season. Then there are the KOC meetings! We had 62 meetings this year and the riders were knackered by the end of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 22:30:28 GMT
Holy Moly, not A and B fixtures surely Bloody better not be as that would mean around 60 meetings for each club if Leicester join the PL next season. Then there are the KOC meetings! We had 62 meetings this year and the riders were knackered by the end of it. So was my liver!!! |
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Post by Genghis on Nov 7, 2009 22:46:19 GMT
Holy Moly, not A and B fixtures surely Nope, Machin's suggestion is the old Polish system whereby the league splits into two. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 23:24:52 GMT
Holy Moly, not A and B fixtures surely Nope, Machin's suggestion is the old Polish system whereby the league splits into two. Or in other words regionalisation........which I strongly believe would be the death knell to speedway in the UK!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 23:43:09 GMT
Not regionalisation, the top half playing off for the league and the bottom half for the Young Shield - so 2 less Scottish derbies as the Monarchs would obviously be in the top half  |
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Post by Genghis on Nov 8, 2009 10:32:19 GMT
Nope, Machin's suggestion is the old Polish system whereby the league splits into two. Or in other words regionalisation........which I strongly believe would be the death knell to speedway in the UK!!! Kev, er no, that's not how it used to work in Poland, is it??  Davy's got the idea. It's also currently used in the Scottish Premier League in Football. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 10:46:11 GMT
And you end up with the farcical situation where the team in 9th often end up with more points than the team who finish 8th!
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Post by Genghis on Nov 8, 2009 11:00:08 GMT
And you end up with the farcical situation where the team in 9th often end up with more points than the team who finish 8th! Yes, but you have a dotted line across the league table to prevent that happening. That's how it worked in Poland and still works in the SPL. The teams at the bottom can't get higher than ninth, no matter how they perform in the closing stages of the season. Don't see why that's farcical. I like the idea. The Premier Trophy is too drawn out and means little and is quite often used as an aerage reduction exercise by less scrupulous teams. This new way (if it comes in), we go straight into league matches - much better surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 12:16:12 GMT
Nigel Pearsons wrote this on the Sky website:-
Once again there are calls for the Elite League to be refined, to offer less fixtures next season... but I just don't see how it can happen.
Eastbourne supremo Bob Dugard has led the calls for the fixture list to be slashed - and this would entice back to British racing the likes of Nicki Pedersen and Greg Hancock.
One proposal has been for eight clubs to race one home and one away on the same night every week - that's 14 league fixtures plus play-offs.
And whilst I can see the merit in this, let's look at the other side of the argument. Many promoters have contracts with their landlords which state they must run a minimum of, say, 22 meetings.
In Coventry's case Avtar Sandhu wants to make as much use of his Brandon Stadium as possible - and seven home league meetings doesn't satisfy that need.
Plus, there is the added argument from some people who ask why the league should be slashed just to accomodate those riders who don't want to ride here at the moment. You can see their point.
Personally I feel the standard of competition in the Elite League in 2009 was better than the previous season - and that was despite winter worries over the absence of riders like Scott Nicholls and Hans Andersen.
Both will be back to start the 2010 campaign, as will the likes of Leigh Adams and Freddie Lindgren. That's no lack of quality.
In conclusion, I really don't see how such a dramatic change can occur. There are too many clubs who need a full fixture list, as opposed to Eastbourne's less.
And when the BSPA AGM gets underway in Bournemouth next week, a new leader for the British Speedway Promoters' Association will need to be appointed. Just for the record, Terry Russell's decision to stand aside as president is a sad moment for the sport - he's a fine promoter.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 12:26:32 GMT
Or in other words regionalisation........which I strongly believe would be the death knell to speedway in the UK!!! Kev, er no, that's not how it used to work in Poland, is it?? Davy's got the idea. It's also currently used in the Scottish Premier League in Football. So let's get this right...the top half of the table are riding league matches in the second half of the season, and the bottom half are riding Young Shield matches? So the league table would reflect that half the teams had ridden twice as many meetings as the other half? I can see the merits of the Polish method, but it only works over there because the relegation places are dependent on these meetings.....far more of an incentive than 'The Young Shield' I would imagine. And another point.........when outsiders ask what exactly is 'The Young Shield', you'd have to answer that it's a competition where the qualification criteria requires that you are one of the worst teams in the Premier League!! |
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Post by Genghis on Nov 8, 2009 12:51:39 GMT
Kev, er no, that's not how it used to work in Poland, is it?? Davy's got the idea. It's also currently used in the Scottish Premier League in Football. So let's get this right...the top half of the table are riding league matches in the second half of the season, and the bottom half are riding Young Shield matches? So the league table would reflect that half the teams had ridden twice as many meetings as the other half? I can see the merits of the Polish method, but it only works over there because the relegation places are dependent on these meetings.....far more of an incentive than 'The Young Shield' I would imagine. And another point.........when outsiders ask what exactly is 'The Young Shield', you'd have to answer that it's a competition where the qualification criteria requires that you are one of the worst teams in the Premier League!! Kev, I would imagine the bottom teams are also still racing league matches, it's just that the Young Shield is up for grabs for the team that finishes ninth. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 17:40:15 GMT
That is my understanding too king genghis.
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