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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 21:16:00 GMT
BUT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU AGREEING WITH GENGHIS ? What constitutes a genuine reason ? A geniune reason is: (1) Injury (2) Riding in a PROPER FIM event - i.e. the big four I previously listed. (3) Illness - but ONLY if rider is then ruled out for 14 days. |
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 21:17:56 GMT
Ok Schumi, have many gorillas fit in average bath? At least my question made sense. I suggest you go back a page and find it. Either you missed it or you have a screw loose. Or both. |
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2009 21:19:59 GMT
It seems we already have ANOTHER facility fiasco looming with Steve Boxall riding for Belle Vue on Thursday, instead of for Newcastle at Redcar. In "doubling up" scenarios, I thought that the lower club always held sway, but that seems not to be the case if Boxall is allowed to ride for Belle Vue.
A potential disgrace.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 21:20:09 GMT
Ok Schumi, have many gorillas fit in average bath? At least my question made sense. I suggest you go back a page and find it. Either you missed it or you have a screw loose. Schumi, "Name ten" wasn't a sensible question.  Anyway, using your own logic, you can't answer my question (even though my question was silly), so therefore I win.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 21:21:21 GMT
BUT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU AGREEING WITH GENGHIS ? What constitutes a genuine reason ? A geniune reason is: (1) Injury (2) Riding in a PROPER FIM event - i.e. the big four I previously listed. (3) Illness - but ONLY if rider is then ruled out for 14 days. So what constitutes an injury ? If Bridger is doing wheelies after winning a race, falls off and damages his wrist is that a bona-fide injury ? |
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 21:23:01 GMT
It seems we already have ANOTHER facility fiasco looming with Steve Boxall riding for Belle Vue on Thursday, instead of for Newcastle at Redcar. In "doubling up" scenarios, I thought that the lower club always held sway, but that seems not to be the case if Boxall is allowed to ride for Belle Vue. A potential disgrace. And this is the problem. Something like this happens day after day after day after day. I know so many people who stopped going to speedway because they couldn't take it anymore. They still liked the racing, but couldn't stand the why the sport it run. THAT's the problem. Not that speedway is fundamentally unpopular, because it's clearly not. |
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 21:25:59 GMT
A geniune reason is: (1) Injury (2) Riding in a PROPER FIM event - i.e. the big four I previously listed. (3) Illness - but ONLY if rider is then ruled out for 14 days. So what constitutes an injury ? If Bridger is doing wheelies after winning a race, falls off and damages his wrist is that a bona-fide injury ? Well, yes, that's quite clearly an injury sustained whilst riding a speedway bike. And this sort of thing has happened. Paul Evitts lost control at Oxford, smashed into the bikes being lined up for the parade and injured himself. |
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 21:26:54 GMT
And this is the problem. Something like this happens day after day after day after day. I know so many people who stopped going to speedway because they couldn't take it anymore. They still liked the racing, but couldn't stand the why the sport it run. THAT's the problem. Not that speedway is fundamentally unpopular, because it's clearly not. Rubbish. That's only the problem for the die hard fans who know the rule book inside out, and who rides for which team on which day. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 21:28:13 GMT
It seems we already have ANOTHER facility fiasco looming with Steve Boxall riding for Belle Vue on Thursday, instead of for Newcastle at Redcar. In "doubling up" scenarios, I thought that the lower club always held sway, but that seems not to be the case if Boxall is allowed to ride for Belle Vue. A potential disgrace. And this is the problem. Something like this happens day after day after day after day. I know so many people who stopped going to speedway because they couldn't take it anymore. They still liked the racing, but couldn't stand the why the sport it run. THAT's the problem. Not that speedway is fundamentally unpopular, because it's clearly not. I would have thought the continual closure of tracks was the greatest problem. Many of the people i took to Wimbledon might still be going if there was a track to visit, the only three tracks within almost a hundred miles of me are Rye, west ham and Seattle and they all ride at weekends when most people have other things to do. |
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2009 21:29:41 GMT
And this is the problem. Something like this happens day after day after day after day. It's a black farce. Is Boxall "doubling-up" or "doubling-down"? I know people will cry that the Belle Vue fixture is a meaningful fixture and the Redcar one is a challenge, but people are still being expected to cough over the readies to watch it. And if people have sense, they'll give it a miss. Boxall should be forced to ride at Redcar, with Belle Vue using their other doubling-up rider, or has he turned "invisible"? |
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 21:29:57 GMT
Schumi, "Name ten" wasn't a sensible question. Of course it was. Name 10 sports that the average person can't take part in that have higher attendances than speedway and you'll have disproved my theory. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 21:31:30 GMT
So what constitutes an injury ? If Bridger is doing wheelies after winning a race, falls off and damages his wrist is that a bona-fide injury ? Well, yes, that's quite clearly an injury sustained whilst riding a speedway bike. And this sort of thing has happened. Paul Evitts lost control at Oxford, smashed into the bikes being lined up for the parade and injured himself. So a rider showing off and injuring himself due to negligence is acceptable, but a rider signing an autograph and catching flu off a supporter is not ? |
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 21:32:42 GMT
And this is the problem. Something like this happens day after day after day after day. I know so many people who stopped going to speedway because they couldn't take it anymore. They still liked the racing, but couldn't stand the why the sport it run. THAT's the problem. Not that speedway is fundamentally unpopular, because it's clearly not. Rubbish. That's only the problem for the die hard fans who know the rule book inside out, and who rides for which team on which day. Schumi, no, it's die-hard fans who are the only ones who put up with this. Everyone else has given up and buggered off - the tactical ride is a particular turn-off for the casual fan, when you think about it, it defies belief. |
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 21:35:41 GMT
Are you seriously suggesting a newcomer would know that X rider was meant to be riding at a track 300 miles down the road? Or would even care?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 21:38:13 GMT
Rubbish. That's only the problem for the die hard fans who know the rule book inside out, and who rides for which team on which day. Schumi, no, it's die-hard fans who are the only ones who put up with this. Everyone else has given up and buggered off - the tactical ride is a particular turn-off for the casual fan, when you think about it, it defies belief. If you and other supporters stood firm and put together a valid argument i'm sure sense would prevail, but lets face it any supporter whos team can get Holder or Pavlic on a derisory average or Nicki Pedersen to guest or Leigh Adams on a tactical in a potential match winning position, is likely to become a fan of any 'silly rules', at least until the boot is on the other foot. |
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