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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 20:03:54 GMT
Excuse me, but your brought up the subject of role-play, not me. And why is speedway unpopular? The excitement of four blokes hurtling around a track remains undimmed, so I suggest it IS the stupid rules, in particular guests, the tactical ride, etc which have driven many fans away, along with the ever-increasing costs of admission. Its still popular with me Genghis, but not for most people, my missus came with me to Seattle the other week, and brought her book to read. As for the ever increasing costs, explain why 28,000 plus people turn up at the likes of Derby County to witness the shit they serve up on a weekly basis, at a much higher cost. And when role play was mentioned you immediately imagined HenryW as a sailor. Your fantasy not mine. Football is popular because it has very simple rules. Speedway should be about 4 blokes doing 4 laps around a track, instead its full of shite, such as one bloke riding for one team one week and another the next, and riders putting on silly helmet colours for double points. No wonder most people think "what the bloody hell". And you want to make it worse by endorsing even more guests. And the other day, you imagined me dressing up as a Morris Dancer and in one of those camp "Frankie Says" T-shirts, so you started all this role play stuff. Personally, it's not my bag, Hatcham, but whatever you do behind close doors, is up to you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 20:11:07 GMT
Its still popular with me Genghis, but not for most people, my missus came with me to Seattle the other week, and brought her book to read. As for the ever increasing costs, explain why 28,000 plus people turn up at the likes of Derby County to witness the shit they serve up on a weekly basis, at a much higher cost. And when role play was mentioned you immediately imagined HenryW as a sailor. Your fantasy not mine. Football is popular because it has very simple rules. Speedway should be about 4 blokes doing 4 laps around a track, instead its full of shite, such as one bloke riding for one team one week and another the next, and riders putting on silly helmet colours for double points. No wonder most people think "what the bloody hell". And you want to make it worse by endorsing even more guests. And the other day, you imagined me dressing up as a Morris Dancer and in one of those camp "Frankie Says" T-shirts, so you started all this role play stuff. Personally, it's not my bag, Hatcham, but whatever you do behind close doors, is up to you. Your Sailor and Mama Mia comments have merely added to my suspicions Genghis, not that it bothers me, so long as i'm not involved, my fantasies are more along the lines of Patricia Arquette in True Romance, and always involve someone with two tits and a fanny. I dont want more guests i merely fail to see what credibility is gained by distinguishing over the reasons. If i turn up at west ham to see Swindon and Leigh Adams is not there, i wouldn't give a fuck why.
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 20:13:05 GMT
No, football is popular because everyone knows what it is. Not many people know speedway even exists, let alone where their closest track is.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 20:19:08 GMT
my fantasties... always involve... two tits Hatcham, if you want to fantasise about Alun Rossiter and Bob Dugard, then that's up to you, but my fantasties always involve women. Schumi, that's because the media won't touch speedway which a bargepole due to nonsenses such as guests and tactical rides.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 20:24:35 GMT
my fantasties... always involve... two tits Hatcham, if you want to fantasise about Alun Rossiter and Bob Dugard, then that's up to you, but my fantasties tend to involve women. Schumi, that's because the media won't touch speedway which a bargepole due to nonsenses such as guests and tactical rides. What utter bollocks, all sports have stupid rules and farcical situations, do you not watch, Football, Cricket, Athletics etc, the media dont get to involved with speedway because less people turn up to watch an elite league match than a blue square north fixture.
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 20:24:59 GMT
Schumi, that's because the media won't touch speedway which a bargepole due to nonsenses such as guests and tactical rides. Is it, or is that just the standard line trotted out when the "A" word is mentioned? I was talking to another forum member about the popularity of speedway and why it was more widely attended in the 50s. He thought it was because back then you could have a family day out relatively cheaply. Personally, I think it's not a sport anyone aspires to - after all you can't just pick up a speedway bike and have a race around the local park. It needs to be more accessible.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 20:28:41 GMT
Hatcham, if you want to fantasise about Alun Rossiter and Bob Dugard, then that's up to you, but my fantasties tend to involve women. Schumi, that's because the media won't touch speedway which a bargepole due to nonsenses such as guests and tactical rides. What utter bollocks, all sports have stupid rules and farcical situations, do you not watch, Football, Cricket, Athletics etc, the media dont get to involved with speedway because less people turn up to watch an elite league match than a blue square north fixture. Hatcham - and the reason people don't attend is: 1. Admission prices (which are too high) 2. Bloody stupid rules (and other sports may have the odd silly rule, but in which other sport, do you have guests??)
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 20:31:45 GMT
Schumi, that's because the media won't touch speedway which a bargepole due to nonsenses such as guests and tactical rides. Is it, or is that just the standard line trotted out when the "A" word is mentioned? I was talking to another forum member about the popularity of speedway and why it was more widely attended in the 50s. He thought it was because back then you could have a family day out relatively cheaply. Personally, I think it's not a sport anyone aspires to - after all you can't just pick up a speedway bike and have a race around the local park. It needs to be more accessible. Schumi, but then F1 should have the same problem, but it's watched by billions. Speedway has a Mickey Mouse image and largely it's deserved. The first thing any of my non-speedway mates comment on if they stumble across speedway on Sky is "How come Hans Andersen is riding for Coventry this week, he was riding for Peterborough last week." It's ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 20:39:27 GMT
What utter bollocks, all sports have stupid rules and farcical situations, do you not watch, Football, Cricket, Athletics etc, the media dont get to involved with speedway because less people turn up to watch an elite league match than a blue square north fixture. Hatcham - and the reason people don't attend is: 1. Admission prices (which are too high) 2. Bloody stupid rules (and other sports may have the odd silly rule, but in which other sport, do you have guests??) A few years ago Real Madrid were knocked out of europe by a goal from Morientes(their own player) who was guesting for Marseilles. What sport other than Cricket had an LBW rule ? etc, etc, etc Schumi is right, sports like football are popular because two kids and a tennis ball can have a game, F1(which seems to have more ludicrous rules than all other sports put together) is popular, because many people are obsessed with fast cars.
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 20:40:14 GMT
Schumi, but then F1 should have the same problem, but it's watched by billions. Sporting heroes usually come from those who are at the pinnacle of their sporting discipline. F1 can claim that honour, speedway can not. Who wants to be a Scott Speed when they can be a Lewis Hamilton? And again, everyone's heard of F1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 20:47:57 GMT
Schumi, that's because the media won't touch speedway which a bargepole due to nonsenses such as guests and tactical rides. Is it, or is that just the standard line trotted out when the "A" word is mentioned? I was talking to another forum member about the popularity of speedway and why it was more widely attended in the 50s. He thought it was because back then you could have a family day out relatively cheaply. Personally, I think it's not a sport anyone aspires to - after all you can't just pick up a speedway bike and have a race around the local park. It needs to be more accessible. I agree with you schumi. Since the 50s, Speedway has had that place in society or status which gives it regular attendees and a tradition to live off the back of. Football has had that working class background and many people are born into the sport. Secondarily, whilst sports like Tennis etc. remain 'average' in terms of support in the Uk, they are still embedded in the class system, schools PE cirriculum and have the glamour of a major event like 'Wimbledon' which attracts starts from Hollywood and catwalks. In the same sense, F1 has this glamour attraction with it's upper class support and glamour attraction. Best thing Speedway can do now is to try and give it the push up a game like Darts did but that still gives the situation of someone not being physically able to do the sport. The newbie would ignore the stupid rules and take the sport on face value. It's only upon second, third and multiple visit they began to question it's rules. It's worth remember that Speedway is never mentioned in Physical Education at GCSE level or A-level and whereas if you'd played another sport at county or country level, you'd be given an automatic full marks in that subject, Speedway wouldn't even register.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 20:51:17 GMT
Hatcham - and the reason people don't attend is: 1. Admission prices (which are too high) 2. Bloody stupid rules (and other sports may have the odd silly rule, but in which other sport, do you have guests??) A few years ago Real Madrid were knocked out of europe by a goal from Morientes(their own player) who was guesting for Marseilles. What sport other than Cricket had an LBW rule ? etc, etc, etc Schumi is right, sports like football are popular because two kids and a tennis ball can have a game, F1(which seems to have more ludicrous rules than all other sports put together) is popular, because many people are obsessed with fast cars. But many people are also obessed by bikes. Speedway CAN be popular. It HAS been popular. Wembley used to have crowds of 60,000+ every week. The reason it's not longer popular is because it's bloody Mickey Mouse. Guests are an abhorrance, so is the tactical bloody ride. Hatcham - you CAN'T have guests in Football. Please come up with another sport which actually uses guests.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2009 20:51:57 GMT
To be honest, I haven't got a clue who they are supposed to help. They just make the sport look stupid... They do, but unfortunately full squad systems are unrealistic - there's no way British clubs could afford them. How? Y'da still being paying out for the 7 riders depending how which 7 you chose. The lower you down in the quality of rider, the nearer to nil the signing-on fee is.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2009 20:54:10 GMT
And again, everyone's heard of F1. Yes, but F1 hasn't got Mickey Mouse rules.. Oh no, wait a minute. It has. Bollocks. BUT if Lewis Hamilton gets injured, can Kimi Raikkonen drive for McLaren for a couple of races. Of course he can't.
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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2009 20:54:31 GMT
But many people are also obessed by bikes. Yes, but Harleys and Kawasakis, not Jawas.
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