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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 18:01:32 GMT
Now then, before we start, I would just like to say that Nicki is one of my top few favourite riders and this is by no means a dig at him...The bsf haters are out in force again , bumping their gums about the fact that his stomach complaint has re-appeared, the Thursday before the Cardiff GP and is therefore not riding tonight against the Panthers.... I have to say it's a tad suspicious ......
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Post by schumi on Jun 28, 2007 18:10:30 GMT
Some of the posters on the BSF are only there to have a dig at people/riders/fans/promotion/forums etc. I've asked a sensible question and as yet no-one has answered, so I can only assume no-one knows. In fact I'd be surprised if many knew he'd even had the tests done in the first place. I'm not going to get into a Nicki debate, but if I'd been as ill as he's reported for such a long time I think I'd be banging down my doctor's door demanding answers. That said, the last time he'd missed a meeting through the same illness he had been riding for something like 6 days straight, in different countries, dropping only a handful of points. And for that effort he should be applauded, especially if he was ill at the time. I hope to see him ride in the GP on Saturday. In fact I have so much confidence in him I'm not going to change him in the GP competition. Edit: okay it looks like I am getting into the Nicki debate. ;D
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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2007 18:15:25 GMT
Okay, leaving aside the "has Nicki P got GPitis" debate, it looks like another close encounter of the Elite League kind tonight - be a surprise if Peterborough don't knock the Eagles for 60. Bumper pay night for the Panthers, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 18:16:53 GMT
Yes I saw your question Schumi.. and as always when people don't really know the answer they guess....
I'm not changing him from my GP competition "two" either, in fact I said on some other thread that i reckon he might win it...and I stick by that.....although I'd be happier if it was bomber...( one can dream I suppose) next year maybe ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2007 18:31:27 GMT
That said, the last time he'd missed a meeting through the same illness he had been riding for something like 6 days straigh If poor Nicki is making himself ill with such a hectic schedule, perhaps the answer is to reduce his commitments rather than risk letting teams down. Interesting though, that he never seems to be ill when the GPs come round.
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Post by Genghis on Jun 28, 2007 19:26:26 GMT
Schumi, Your blind faith in Nicki P is touching, if misguided. When he misses a GP through illness, then I might think it's geniune. On the whole, riders such as him are taking the mickey out of British Speedway and it's about time the GP riders were shown the exit door - we're better off without them and their huge wage demands that British Speedway cannot sustain. Interesting to see Sub sitting on the fence on this one - I wonder why All the best Rob
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Post by schumi on Jun 28, 2007 20:25:32 GMT
Kevin: It wasn’t his schedule that made him ill, but when he had one day off people were up in arms questioning his commitment. My point was that he rode throughout his illness scoring more than most do when they are well. And it’s not blind faith, Rob. I’ve commented somewhere on here (or maybe it was in a message to Sub) that Nicki was responsible for Jagus’ accident, and if he’s at fault I’ll say so, but he gets so much hassle simply because he’s Nicki Pedersen. I always find myself defending the guy who’s getting stick if I don’t think it’s fair. Nicki is a fast, hard, exciting racer and he gives more to the sport than many. It’s unfair to criticise him for being ill, and even worse to have a go if (and when) he rides in the GP, because he’s not the first and he certainly won’t be the last. And, come on guys, it’s only Eastbourne. They were never going to win it anyway. Also Rob, I thought you liked having someone to boo.
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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2007 20:26:15 GMT
Because, young fellow, it's not something one normally associates with Nicki P.
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Post by schumi on Jun 28, 2007 20:39:43 GMT
Actually I should retract my earlier comment. Seems that Shields scored 8 points tonight. Had Nicki been there he probably would have scored 13, say? Would have made the score 46-47 and given it to Eastbourne. Oh, the shame Nicki. Bad boy.
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Post by admin on Jun 28, 2007 20:44:23 GMT
Just looked at the result on sportowefakty.pl - a very brave effort from a depleted Eastbourne side, but, in my view, a poor showing from Peterborough - they should've knocked 60 past that Eagles side.
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Post by schumi on Jun 29, 2007 7:51:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 8:13:59 GMT
Yes I was just about to post that...., I'm sure it's not a pleasant condition, but I'm kind of glad that it isn't something even worse........watch him have a stormer tomorrow now.... ;D
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Post by Genghis on Jun 29, 2007 9:09:12 GMT
It’s unfair to criticise him for being ill, and even worse to have a go if (and when) he rides in the GP, because he’s not the first and he certainly won’t be the last. Schumi, Nicki is something of a constant offender, though. In 2003, he missed meetings and refused rides for Oxford before GP rounds, and it was his refusal to take a Heat 15 ride a few days before the Danish GP (and subsequently spitting at Nigel Wagstaff) that led to his dismissal. In 2004, he suddenly developed an injury that prevented him coming to Oxford shortly after that infamous clash in the Czech GP with Greg Hancock. In fact, we've hardly seen him at Oxford ever since, he's always missing for one reason or another. Nicki may well have a genuine complaint this time, but he's like the little boy who cried wolf, there's been too many absences in the past for anyone to believe him anymore. I've just about had my fill of GP riders in British Speedway. The harm outweighs the good. Boot them all into touch, and let's rebuild British Speedway at a domestic level. All the best Rob
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 9:28:48 GMT
We should use a similar rule that teams try to use in football. If you are not fit to play for your club, then you don't play for your country. However Federations always get their way in the end. The top riders ie, the GP boys just play at Team speedway in this country to fill in the gaps before the next SGP. It is a myth that we need them, as everyone knows Chris Harris is one of the most exciting talents around, and he has only just got in to the GP. There are others worth watching and we need consistent meetings with full teams, ( injuries aside), not matches where riders couldn't give a damn whether they turn up or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2007 19:48:24 GMT
The current SCB regulations say
Rule 18.1.2 E
"a team may utilise a facility to cover tyhe absence of a rider who is sick or carrying a non speedway injury, in which case the rider cannot return within 7 days (including his Team next home meeting) without the express permission of the Management Committee"
Simple really, ensure the rules are applied and ban riders who miss a meeting for the 7 days that the rules dictate. I can only assume that every rider is givent Management Committee permission to return. That way the riders are hit in the pocket
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