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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:06:44 GMT
Get a grip . You and your wee pal Orion have been spouting your bitterness all over the BSF . Do we know if Nicholls wanted to ride ? Somehow i think if he did , then he would have ridden tonight . We done better than expected tonight and i for one am excited about the future under this management structure . I know you disagree and have colourfully made that point , but i no longer care whether you do or not as Rob Lyon will be in charge of Team GB for as long as he wants to be .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:14:40 GMT
Sack Lyon, bring back Middlo and lets see the 2010 Team GB consist of Nicholls, Rico, Stoney, Havelock & Screen, with any luck reserves will be allowed back in the competiton so Paul Fry can pick up a cap too. The "Young" team GB collectively put up a good account for themselves over the 2 meetings they contested and in all honestly did much better than many of us probably expected. All if's & but's regarding Nicholls exclusion from the team, probably wouldn't have changed the final outcome in my opinion if he had ridden tonight. Maybe he didn't want to ride, maybe he can't if his FIM fine from the British GP is outstanding, maybe and more likely, he couldn't give a fuck and is enjoying a week off away somewhere with the family. Back to the SWC... can't see anything past a home win on Saturday with possibly the Ruskies picking up a surprise silver and the Aussies the bronze.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:25:57 GMT
Get a grip . You and your wee pal Orion have been spouting your bitterness all over the BSF . Do we know if Nicholls wanted to ride ? Somehow i think if he did , then he would have ridden tonight . We done better than expected tonight and i for one am excited about the future under this management structure . I know you disagree and have colourfully made that point , but i no longer care whether you do or not as Rob Lyon will be in charge of Team GB for as long as he wants to be . Nothing to do with bitteness paul .. just common sense . With our full team we would be in the final simple as that ... lyon fucked up big time and choose to pick king in poland only someone who knew nothing about speedway would have done that . Time for people to admit they were wrong ands start eating some humple pie . How loads of texts and pm's on monday saying i was wrong tonight nothing tells the story ;D ;D This night and match will be remember for how lyon cost us a place in the world cup final .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:26:53 GMT
Get a grip . You and your wee pal Orion have been spouting your bitterness all over the BSF . Do we know if Nicholls wanted to ride ? Somehow i think if he did , then he would have ridden tonight . We done better than expected tonight and i for one am excited about the future under this management structure . I know you disagree and have colourfully made that point , but i no longer care whether you do or not as Rob Lyon will be in charge of Team GB for as long as he wants to be . I have no bitterness Paulco, i backed The Danes and Aussies in a double to win the first two rounds, which went down the kermit and Sweden to win the whole caboosh at 30/1(as i posted earlier) obviously the way the Swedes rode tonight i'm not holding my breath on a win, but at least they are still in it. Its a bit like a couple of years ago when i had a massive bet on Peterborough to win the league(which they did) but neither event detracts from the facts that Reading lost due to Jim Lynch's ineptitude and Team GB lost tonight due to Rob Lyon's. As i have said many times before first and foremost Lyon's biggest mistake was dropping Richardson for Peterborough, and i fail to see what positive effects will be made by then dropping Kennett from the Race-off. If this years final was not important in the 'big picture' then why did he only give Bridger 3 rides and King 4, surely experience would have been gained by them taking their full quota. Oh and i certainly don't need the assistance of any "wee pals"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:30:58 GMT
It's funny how for some people this site is the bastion of free speech, so long as you don't disagree with the 'in crowd'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:37:37 GMT
There's an "in crowd" on here?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:40:20 GMT
There's an "in crowd" on here? So Genghis tells me when he's in one of his 'moods'
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Post by admin on Jul 16, 2009 22:42:04 GMT
Get a grip . You and your wee pal Orion have been spouting your bitterness all over the BSF . Do we know if Nicholls wanted to ride ? Somehow i think if he did , then he would have ridden tonight . We done better than expected tonight and i for one am excited about the future under this management structure . I know you disagree and have colourfully made that point , but i no longer care whether you do or not as Rob Lyon will be in charge of Team GB for as long as he wants to be . Nothing to do with bitteness paul .. just common sense . With our full team we would be in the final simple as that ... lyon fucked up big time and choose to pick king in poland only someone who knew nothing about speedway would have done that . And someone who did know about speedway would pick the global superstar who scored just ONE point in the Leszno GP earlier this season and who has been dropped by his Polish team recently? A rider who contemptuously talked recently about a "rider like Harris" winning a GP. "Every dog has his day" was the refrain, and the global superstar has had his.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:50:37 GMT
Looks like a bad collarbone injury for Adam Shields, a decision will be made in the morning for his treatment but It looks as if he will need the collarbone to be plated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 22:50:37 GMT
Nothing to do with bitteness paul .. just common sense . With our full team we would be in the final simple as that ... lyon fucked up big time and choose to pick king in poland only someone who knew nothing about speedway would have done that . And someone who did know about speedway would pick the global superstar who scored just ONE point in the Leszno GP earlier this season and who has been dropped by his Polish team recently? A rider who contemptuously talked recently about a "rider like Harris" winning a GP. "Every dog has his day" was the refrain, and the global superstar has had his. Sube not saying your wrong ...but there a world of change before king gets anywhere near the stadard of nicholls . Nicholls at worst would have scored 9 or 10 more than enough to see team gb sail in to the final .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 23:01:04 GMT
Here's the thing, i'll post this then i'm off to bed. My argument is.
Dropping Nicholls from both events did not do GB any good because with two bites of the cherry we failed to make it to the finals, so we failed. It also did Nicholls no good because his confidence will be even lower now and he'll feel alienated. Picking Kennett on a wave of 'giving the youngsters a go' and then dropping him will certainly have done nothing for his confidence. It can't have done Richardson any good to have been dropped from Peterborough because it will have caused resentment, Rico's initial response was of course to look superb tonight but the long term effects of that resentment are likely to linger and be a negative influence. Harris and Woffinden will of course when the excitement dies down realize that two riders scoring one point between them cost them a World Cup final place. For Bridger an E/F in his first ride and an exclusion in his second, resulted in his removal from his third ride where Richardson scored 6, none of this will do his confidence any good in the long run. As for King, he had a couple of very good races at Peterborough and was then somehow elevated to superstar status, the weight of expectation on his shoulders proved way too much as it always would be expected too and he failed spectacularly, all tonight would have shown him is that he'll never ever be up to the required standard at the highest level. These are the reasons i feel Rob Lyon is not up to the job. we had a home match and a match against a shockingly poor Sweden and injury ravaged Danish side and yet we still failed.
If anyone can give me rational reasons why Lyon's is the man for the job without insulting me, telling me i'm bitter or to get over myself etc, i'll be glad to 'listen'
All i see is a country that made mistakes, failed, and is delighted to have done so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 23:14:26 GMT
Nicholls at worst would have scored 9 or 10 How many you had tonight???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2009 23:15:41 GMT
Nicholls at worst would have scored 9 or 10 How many you had tonight??? 9 or 10 ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 5:54:50 GMT
OK you guy`s have shot your mouth`s of long enough about England this and England that.They all rode fantastic and I for one am looking forward to next year now because, It is done and dusted what about the sides still in the title chase, Russia with Emil,Poland with Thomas,Australia with Jason and Sweden with Freddie,We only have a day to go so pick the strong and weak things to help me understand a little bit more about a fantastic competition.Wow how good was that,Extreme yes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 7:14:07 GMT
Here's the thing, i'll post this then i'm off to bed. My argument is. Dropping Nicholls from both events did not do GB any good because with two bites of the cherry we failed to make it to the finals, so we failed. It also did Nicholls no good because his confidence will be even lower now and he'll feel alienated. Picking Kennett on a wave of 'giving the youngsters a go' and then dropping him will certainly have done nothing for his confidence. It can't have done Richardson any good to have been dropped from Peterborough because it will have caused resentment, Rico's initial response was of course to look superb tonight but the long term effects of that resentment are likely to linger and be a negative influence. Harris and Woffinden will of course when the excitement dies down realize that two riders scoring one point between them cost them a World Cup final place. For Bridger an E/F in his first ride and an exclusion in his second, resulted in his removal from his third ride where Richardson scored 6, none of this will do his confidence any good in the long run. As for King, he had a couple of very good races at Peterborough and was then somehow elevated to superstar status, the weight of expectation on his shoulders proved way too much as it always would be expected too and he failed spectacularly, all tonight would have shown him is that he'll never ever be up to the required standard at the highest level. These are the reasons i feel Rob Lyon is not up to the job. we had a home match and a match against a shockingly poor Sweden and injury ravaged Danish side and yet we still failed. If anyone can give me rational reasons why Lyon's is the man for the job without insulting me, telling me i'm bitter or to get over myself etc, i'll be glad to 'listen' All i see is a country that made mistakes, failed, and is delighted to have done so. Only had a quick skim through but agree with what I've read.
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