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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 20:18:49 GMT
I still can decide whether I think they were involved or not. It can only be speculation without the facts, although I certainly don't disagree there certainly seems something odd about the whole thing. What I disagree with though, is the trial by mob and 'hang 'em high' mentality on the BSF, without actually knowing any of the actual circumstances. However if you believe The Sun (OK I know gutter press but it's the only one I've read today) Sadly, the tabloid press can and do invent complete fabrications to sensationalise their stories. That's the whole problem - we only really know the story we're fed by the media.
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Post by stuartroad on Sept 8, 2007 20:23:29 GMT
Well I've just asked why, so either we get an explanation or another thread will get deleted. good luck with that sl,seems the bsf cannot countenance debate on anything but the most mundane,inconsequential of topics
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 20:31:40 GMT
The problem is stuart, is that it turns from debate into a witch hunting hatred from some posters who have no idea what they're talking about and i completely expected it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 20:33:43 GMT
Well full marks to Sir Lunchy who has sent me a pm saying the thread has been moved to the mods section. He didn't move it and has no idea why it was removed. He also said he thought people were keeping within reasonable limits on it.
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Post by stuartroad on Sept 8, 2007 20:35:05 GMT
The problem is stuart, is that it turns from debate into a witch hunting hatred from some posters who have no idea what they're talking about and i completely expected it. then thats a shame jacques,i havn't looked since this morning,been too busy 'getting on gollob'
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 20:36:19 GMT
Well full marks to Sir Lunchy who has sent me a pm saying the thread has been moved to the mods section. He didn't move it and has no idea why it was removed. He also said he thought people were keeping within reasonable limits on it. what happens when it's moved to the mods section then, i assume they filter it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 21:05:07 GMT
Anyway never mind those twats on the BSF . Any new developments today ? I've been wrapped up in sport all day and haven't seen the news programmes .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 21:09:43 GMT
Anyway never mind those twats on the BSF . Any new developments today ? I've been wrapped up in sport all day and haven't seen the news programmes . only that they are both now "suspects", there's nothing new no. Although from what was said earlier, the Police have to charge them within 10 days of them becoming suspects. You may have caught that bit I don't know
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Post by braveheart on Sept 8, 2007 21:35:33 GMT
You're going to all have to tell me what has happened on the BSF, who said what exactly as I've not been available for the last two days.
I have seen the news though, constantly. My first reactions to hearing the news about Maddie going missing were of disabelief. A 3 year old and 2 toddlers leaving them on their own. No way that I would leave them alone. Either they would follow me back to the restaurant pretending they're asleep, start crying, playup or start fighting. To be abducted would probably be after all them scenarios.
I just don't know what to think now. There has been too much media. Schumi was right by saying about them being cold, not one of them has been seen showing emotions or losing their rag. It's all very strange.
I just hope it will be resolved soon. And I just hope for their sake Maddie turns up although I fear the worst.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 21:54:49 GMT
Ok, just to throw something into the bag then. When i first joined the Police I'd have agreed with the sentiment about the showing of grief or upset and it's something that myself and Cousteau talked about tonight. People react very, very differently to shock or grief.. there's been many a time i've had to fight the corner of a Rape victim with colleagues because she didn't cry or show outward emotion........
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Post by braveheart on Sept 8, 2007 22:03:38 GMT
Ok, just to throw something into the bag then. When i first joined the Police I'd have agreed with the sentiment about the showing of grief or upset and it's something that myself and Cousteau talked about tonight. People react very, very differently to shock or grief.. there's been many a time i've had to fight the corner of a Rape victim with colleagues because she didn't cry or show outward emotion........ Yeah but I bet they have shown something after four months or at least lost their temper. There has been no change, at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 22:06:18 GMT
not one of them has been seen showing emotions or losing their rag. It's all very strange. It may yet be proved they're implicated in some manner, but the modern-day expectation that everyone should be reduced to some sort of blubbering wreck in the face of adversity appalls me. At one time, keeping a stiff upper lip was considered admirable (and British), and frankly I sometimes think we've sometimes gone too far down the road of 'empathy' these days. A lack of outward emotion proves absolutely nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 22:12:40 GMT
Ok, just to throw something into the bag then. When i first joined the Police I'd have agreed with the sentiment about the showing of grief or upset and it's something that myself and Cousteau talked about tonight. People react very, very differently to shock or grief.. there's been many a time i've had to fight the corner of a Rape victim with colleagues because she didn't cry or show outward emotion........ Yeah but I bet they have shown something after four months or at least lost their temper. There has been no change, at all. not in front of the press it hasn't no
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2007 22:13:54 GMT
not one of them has been seen showing emotions or losing their rag. It's all very strange. It may yet be proved they're implicated in some manner, but the modern-day expectation that everyone should be reduced to some sort of blubbering wreck in the face of adversity appalls me. At one time, keeping a stiff upper lip was considered admirable (and British), and frankly I sometimes think we've sometimes gone too far down the road of 'empathy' these days. A lack of outward emotion proves absolutely nothing. spot on, where's that approve smiley.
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Post by braveheart on Sept 8, 2007 22:16:50 GMT
I am not saying blubbering, just sort of stuck for words with a lump in throat and watery eyes. Alot of people would be doing the appeal interview and then sort of staying out the limelight but its not been the case here.
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