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Post by admin on Sept 27, 2007 13:11:49 GMT
It looks like pulling out of the PLRC to ride in a Polish play-off meeting has brought a 28-day ban for Magnus Zetterstrom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 13:31:17 GMT
I bet it's money orientated.
The PLRC is an individual tournament but the rider is representing his team. A team that has been his bread and butter all season and fans who have supported him all season. What Zorro has done is stuck two fingers up to Somerset, their fans and British speedway.
The ban is the correct way to go.
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Post by admin on Sept 27, 2007 14:43:12 GMT
And no doubt it could be countered that Gorzow have also been his "bread and butter" this season - he seems to have featured in most of their meetings. And Sunday's meeting, as far as I can tell, decides whether Gorzow will be Ekstraliga next season. I also seem to recall that Gorzow offered to pay his fine for missing a Somerset meeting earlier in the season. I suppose, at the end of the day, would Somerset's fans be okay with Zetterstrom missing a crucial play-off meeting to ride in some individual tournament in Poland?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:03:43 GMT
Someone said that riders have it included in their contract that they have to ride in the ELRC, if that's so surely the same would apply to the PL. The date has been known for months and it wouldn't take a genius to work out that Zorro was odds on fav to be Somersets representative months ago. Ban is justified IMHO, if he wants to choose Poland over the UK fine, let him do it - now and in 2008. He's messed the PL about enough IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:09:42 GMT
Someone said that riders have it included in their contract that they have to ride in the ELRC, if that's so surely the same would apply to the PL. The date has been known for months and it wouldn't take a genius to work out that Zorro was odds on fav to be Somersets representative months ago. Ban is justified IMHO, if he wants to choose Poland over the UK fine, let him do it - now and in 2008. He's messed the PL about enough IMO. What's more important - a play-off meeting vital to your Polish club or a two-bob individual meeting that half the top riders in the league wont be at anyway . It's not as if he's missing a Rebels match this time .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:12:07 GMT
Not the point Paul. He's done it before several times. I personally dont' give a flying fart about Polish play offs. There again I don't give a fart about the PLRC either ;D
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Post by Genghis on Sept 27, 2007 20:20:13 GMT
Someone said that riders have it included in their contract that they have to ride in the ELRC, if that's so surely the same would apply to the PL. The date has been known for months and it wouldn't take a genius to work out that Zorro was odds on fav to be Somersets representative months ago. Ban is justified IMHO, if he wants to choose Poland over the UK fine, let him do it - now and in 2008. He's messed the PL about enough IMO. What's more important - a play-off meeting vital to your Polish club or a two-bob individual meeting that half the top riders in the league wont be at anyway . It's not as if he's missing a Rebels match this time . Paulco, The ELRC is a sorry mess, but the PLRC still has some intregrity. Zorro's ban is correct.
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Post by admin on Sept 27, 2007 20:22:28 GMT
The problem here, of course, is that the BSPA has no accord with the PZM to govern fixture clashes - not sure if the Poles have an accord with anyone, to be honest. The second leg of the Ekstraliga play-off final clashes with the Pardubice Golden Helmet meeting. The Polish authorities seem to have a rather disdainful approach towards other leagues, or perhaps non-Polish riders - if they ride in Poland, they ride in Poland and if they don't, well, they don't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:22:49 GMT
He's contracted to ride for his Polish team , when available . Surely his team being involved in the play-offs is more important than an individual meeting .
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Post by admin on Sept 27, 2007 20:26:16 GMT
He's contracted to ride for his Polish team , when available . Surely his team being involved in the play-offs is more important than an individual meeting . And his appearance on Sunday is probably a matter for Zetterstrom and Gorzow, with the PZM not particularly caring where he rides, while the BSPA is getting all heavy-handed. The PZM governs where Polish riders ride, they don't seem to care where the "mercenaries" ride.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:33:11 GMT
He's contracted to ride for his Polish team , when available . Surely his team being involved in the play-offs is more important than an individual meeting . Putting my patriotic hat on (a very rare occasion), I'd say as he's defending champion the PLRC is more important. Don't Poland have a squad system, so surely he is replaceable?
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Post by admin on Sept 27, 2007 20:42:22 GMT
Don't Poland have a squad system, so surely he is replaceable? Yes, Poland has a squad system and Gorzow have a squad. But they'll want to put out their best side and Zetterstrom must be part of their best side.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:45:27 GMT
Putting my patriotic hat on (a very rare occasion), I'd say as he's defending champion the PLRC is more important. Don't Poland have a squad system, so surely he is replaceable? They do and presumably they have requested Zorro's presence and probably couldn't give a flying fuck about the PLRC . Which , let's face it , is of limited interest to everyone apart from the supporters of 15 teams in the 2nd tier of British speedway .
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Post by Genghis on Sept 27, 2007 20:45:40 GMT
He's contracted to ride for his Polish team , when available . Surely his team being involved in the play-offs is more important than an individual meeting . Putting my patriotic hat on (a very rare occasion), I'd say as he's defending champion the PLRC is more important. Don't Poland have a squad system, so surely he is replaceable? Kick all the foreigners out of the Premier League... they shouldn't be in there anyway (except for Commonwealth riders). And then you wouldn't have problems like this. The gimboid Zetterstrom has already cost his team a place in the PL Play-offs. If he's not committed to the Premier League, then he can fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2007 20:49:03 GMT
Kick all the foreigners out of the Premier League... they shouldn't be in there anyway (except for Commonwealth riders). And then you wouldn't have problems like this. On that point we are in agreement . Didn't it used to be like that in the dim and distant past .
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