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Post by admin on Aug 13, 2007 20:49:50 GMT
His nodding knowledgeably when Tatum is talking is not convincing And Tatum's talking is rarely convincing, in fact it's usually bollocks.
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Post by stuartroad on Aug 13, 2007 21:32:55 GMT
good man iversen,hope he is ok.
and fuck me your a hard lot to please,poor old greenie and tatum,they do their best,but clearly to no avail.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2007 21:54:45 GMT
Thought that was one of the better meetings SKY has shown this season. Fantastic couple of bends from Crumpie in ht 15 as he stuffed Andersen good & proper.
Was it just me who was shouting "'ave it" at the TV? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2007 22:02:45 GMT
I was half pleased the referee excluded Iversen, since it meant we got to see the golem Swales in full cry. That wasn't him in full cry, you have to attend an Oxford Fans' Forum for that pleasure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 7:12:54 GMT
All four back was surely the only sensible decision after the Crump/Iversen incident. Even the gormless Swales had the ref. tied up in knots over that one.
The ref. stated that he could not, by the rules order all four back, Swales indicated that this was bollocks.
So, who is right here? Can the ref. order all four back regardless of where the incident takes place?
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Post by schumi on Aug 14, 2007 8:18:44 GMT
So, who is right here? Can the ref. order all four back regardless of where the incident takes place? According to Sube, who I have complete faith in: The referee has the discretion to call all 4 at any stage of a race - first bend bunching is a myth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 9:30:40 GMT
So, who is right here? Can the ref. order all four back regardless of where the incident takes place? According to Sube, who I have complete faith in: The referee has the discretion to call all 4 at any stage of a race - first bend bunching is a myth. Talking to Tony Steele, that's correct. Dare I say Lindgren's incident in Malilla should have had this logic applied to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 9:38:28 GMT
I think it's about time that such a rule was written into the book for all to see, then we would not get this nonsense everytime there is a 50/50 incident.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 10:17:58 GMT
I don't like the idea of allowing all four back to be honest. On first bend incidents, fair enough, but after that it would just become a cop out for refs on making a decision.
Riders comes off. Someone gets excluded. Quite right too. It's part of the fun.
Enough of this wishy-washy liberal "All four back" nonsense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 10:35:45 GMT
I've NEVER voted for the Liberals !
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Post by Genghis on Aug 14, 2007 10:38:28 GMT
I don't like the idea of allowing all four back to be honest. On first bend incidents, fair enough, but after that it would just become a cop out for refs on making a decision. Riders comes off. Someone gets excluded. Quite right too. It's part of the fun. Enough of this wishy-washy liberal "All four back" nonsense. Grachan, I agree and don't agree! (I'm learning to sit on the fence from Kelvin!! ) I agree that it creates a talking point, just look at last night. I don't agree because there are ocassions where the blame cannot be pinned on an individual rider. I think the ref got it right last night, although all 4 back would have also been justified. I'm glad Crump wasn't excluded, because that would have been totally wrong. Good meeting last night, though, one of the best on Sky this year. Interesting that the best race of the night did not involve the GP superstars, but actually came in Heat 14. Just shows you could get rid of the top boys and it would still be just as entertaining. All the best Rob
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Post by Genghis on Aug 14, 2007 10:40:42 GMT
So, who is right here? Can the ref. order all four back regardless of where the incident takes place? According to Sube, who I have complete faith in: The referee has the discretion to call all 4 at any stage of a race - first bend bunching is a myth. Yep, I've seen it happen on lap 3. I think referees are trained to exclude someone, though if it doesn't happen on the first two bends. All the best Rob
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Post by admin on Aug 14, 2007 10:41:20 GMT
I don't like the idea of allowing all four back to be honest. On first bend incidents, fair enough, but after that it would just become a cop out for refs on making a decision. Not fair enough. First bend bunching often provides just as much of a cop out for referees as any other time in the race.
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Post by Genghis on Aug 14, 2007 10:45:22 GMT
I was half pleased the referee excluded Iversen, since it meant we got to see the golem Swales in full cry. That wasn't him in full cry, you have to attend an Oxford Fans' Forum for that pleasure. Kev, Ah, the infamous "like it or lump it" speech. <insert banging head on table in disbelief smilie> Swales is a miserable bugger. Last night, his team have taken a memorable, hard fought victory and he's acting like Oscar The Grouch over the lost bonus point. All the best Rob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2007 11:16:29 GMT
Now this was a cracker, Sky definitely made the right decision to show this one. Best one this season. I think on this occassion that Swales was right , he had the ref tied up in knots aswell, it was cringeworthy. Tough decision though. There was some great riding from the younger riders too, notably Bachelor, Doolan and King. I can't remember exactly but didn't Richard Hall fall off in every race Ug ug
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