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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 13:24:49 GMT
I see this has started a day early this season. I have to say i absolutely detest it, i'm sure a lot of good causes benefit but the sight of patronizing celebrities telling poor people to dig deep while they bask in the glory of giving their time, drives me to distraction. Thats funny - I was at a friend's house for a belated fireworks night last night and they were mentioning Children in Need - and I said much the same thing about the hypocrisy of the rich preaching for the ones that aren't so well off to give to those even less well off. Overlooking the fact if they weren't paid so much and the money was spread more equally (an idealistic thought I'm aware will never happen, as its human nature for the most part to get as much of what they want as possible, and too often that is money) there probably wouldn't be so many problems. I could use footballers as my pet example... the millions they get paid on a regular basis could be used to stop people starving. |
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Post by Genghis on Nov 20, 2009 14:10:21 GMT
FFS you lot, what a bunch of miserable old gits. It's all for "charity mate", I'm sure the said charities would rather have celebrities backing, taking part in their fund raising events than not just because the said celebrity may benefit too from their involvement. Rob, I know you as a poor down trodden Oxford fan, but also for the charitable work you do for the SRBF. Now I'm not saying that you do that for any personal gain (quite the opposite I know), but in the British Speedway world you could be seen as basking in the glory of giving up your time for the worthwhile cause.   Wacks - if I wanted to bask in glory, I wouldn't choose to do it in a canary yellow top.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 16:02:02 GMT
i'm sure a lot of good causes benefit but the sight of patronizing celebrities telling poor people to dig deep while they bask in the glory of giving their time, drives me to distraction. I'm sure some are genuine, but for others it's an opportunity to publicise themselves so they can sell more records/do more gigs. I also doubt they cover their expenses to turn up either, so I do think you have to question how much money these things actually raise in the end. Overlooking the fact if they weren't paid so much and the money was spread more equally Unfortunately though, there will always be those who work harder and/or are more talented than others, which is why inequalities exist in the first place. Would it be fair on the hard working if they earned the same as the lazy and feckless? In any case, I'm sure many celebrities started in their field because it's what they loved doing, not because they wanted to be rich. Getting rich was probably a happy side effect, and even if you have to question the actual talent of some of the Z-listers on our screen today, I'm not sure I begrude the likes of McCartney his millions for the pleasure he's brought to billions with his music. I could use footballers as my pet example... the millions they get paid on a regular basis could be used to stop people starving. The sad reality is that even if they gave all their money to developing countries, it would make very little appreciable difference. People are largely starving because of the corruption and ineffectiveness of their societies; something that generations of aid have failed to solve. Natural disasters can of course affect anyone, but even these can be mitigated through proper planning and contingencies. The US gets hit by earthquakes, volcanos, tornados and floods as much as any developing country, but we don't go around having to organise charity concerts for them. This said, individuals can certainly be unlucky with the cards handed to them in life, and those who are fortunate should have a duty to provide aid and comfort if they can. However, when entire societies consistently fail to provide their people with the necessities of life, I think you have to question how much you impact you can really make. |
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Post by zonkers on Nov 20, 2009 21:01:13 GMT
Only had it on for 20 minutes..and it's boring the pants off me already....  Is it just me.....or has Terry Wogan been way past his sell-by date since "Blankety Blank"......?? !! Can't bear him on Radio 2 either....have to switch over..! |
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Post by zonkers on Nov 20, 2009 21:04:48 GMT
but in the British Speedway world you could be seen as basking in the glory of giving up your time for the worthwhile cause. And for gaining free entry into a speedway meeting ! ;D ;D ;D (Joke ....!! ;D) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 21:15:01 GMT
Only had it on for 20 minutes..and it's boring the pants off me already.... Is it just me.....or has Terry Wogan been way past his sell-by date since "Blankety Blank"......?? !! Can't bear him on Radio 2 either....have to switch over..! Yes, a shameless case of the BBC showcasing their talent, and allowing dozens of blue chip companies some value for money advertising. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 22:08:30 GMT
People view it and it makes money for this particular charity --- is that so terrible?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2009 22:44:55 GMT
People view it and it makes money for this particular charity --- is that so terrible? Obviously to some . Have to agree with Zonkers over "El Tel" I'm afraid, fortunately now Katie has gone to bed I don't have to watch it....my choice I might add, and I did enjoy the concert last night |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 10:27:55 GMT
People view it and it makes money for this particular charity --- is that so terrible? Maybe you would like to anonymously send me some money Sjl, i'll send on 10% of it to Children in Need, grab all the glory and pocket the remaining 90%. Peter Kays performance last night was truly appalling, a disgusting exhibition of exploiting the misfortune of others. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 11:11:06 GMT
I find it rather strange that you berate the efforts of people raising money for charity under the banner of "Children in Need" then confess to actually watching it. Double Standards are the words that come to mind . I watched some of it last night, some of it was cringe worthy but I found parts of it rather entertaining (far better than some scheduled TV progs). Personally I don't have a problem with any fundraising, by anyone as long as it's legal, money is put to good use and not used for "administration" and people raising money aren't too in your face. If people want to give and support fine, if they don't ignore it and pass by/switch channels. I do object to people knocking others who try to help others in what ever manner tho. |
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Post by zonkers on Nov 21, 2009 11:49:49 GMT
In defence of Hatcham, Star Lady, it is sometimes hard to avoid it ! I, for one, kept switching channels only to find there was naff-all else on, and so you find yourself watching little bits here and there hoping that eventually something half decent or funny may actually come on ! I am all for giving to charity, and this is indeed a very worthwhile one. However, there are many many other charities out there which I believe are as worthy, if not more so, and yet do not get the same promotion, nationwide participation, and air time as this. I think if they are going to carry this on, however, the show seriously needs a re-vamp...it's getting beyond naff and cheesy ! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 12:15:58 GMT
I find it rather strange that you berate the efforts of people raising money for charity under the banner of "Children in Need" then confess to actually watching it. Double Standards are the words that come to mind . I watched some of it last night, some of it was cringe worthy but I found parts of it rather entertaining (far better than some scheduled TV progs). Personally I don't have a problem with any fundraising, by anyone as long as it's legal, money is put to good use and not used for "administration" and people raising money aren't too in your face. If people want to give and support fine, if they don't ignore it and pass by/switch channels. I do object to people knocking others who try to help others in what ever manner tho. My wife was watching some of the show SL, i just happened to walk in the room when Peter Kay was on stage, i have always been something of a Peter Kay fan and always found him amusing, but last night he was(to me) exploitive and offensive. Maybe the show would be more watchable if the various performers simply performed for the viewers, and the blue chip companies(and singers, comedians etc who have records, dvd's and tours forthcoming) paid for it with good old fashioned advertising, rather than the shameless way all donations are made via a massive cheque with bank and company logo's emblazoned. For what it's worth, and as you seem rather interested in my viewing habits, i watched the football, then I'm a Celebrity and then I'm a celebrity now, after which Mrs Hatcham and I, retired to bed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 12:54:31 GMT
In defence of Hatcham, Star Lady, it is sometimes hard to avoid it ! I, for one, kept switching channels only to find there was naff-all else on, and so you find yourself watching little bits here and there hoping that eventually something half decent or funny may actually come on ! cheesy ! I do that most evenings  Unless you want to watch Z list celebrities who just want their faces on TV or Agents/managers who just want to find another act to exploit there ain't much to watch in the way of light entertainment. Even Strictly ain't the same this year |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2009 12:57:39 GMT
there are many many other charities out there which I believe are as worthy, if not more so, and yet do not get the same promotion, nationwide participation, and air time as this. How very, very true.....on the rocky road through life many of us have been affected by certain events, and therefore probably all have our own favourite charity. It does seem unfair that this one charity is singled out for massive exposure and all the others are left to fight for themselves. |
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Post by zonkers on Nov 21, 2009 13:02:38 GMT
i watched the football, then I'm a Celebrity and then I'm a celebrity now, after which Mrs Hatcham and I, retired to bed. Phew.....glad you stopped there !!  ;D ;D ;D |
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Unless you want to watch Z list celebrities who just want their faces on TV or Agents/managers who just want to find another act to exploit there ain't much to watch in the way of light entertainment. Even Strictly ain't the same this year 
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