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Post by admin on Aug 9, 2009 19:05:41 GMT
According to the rules, it's a one year ban for Piszcz, unless a hasty agreement has been signed between the BSPA and GKSZ. So a one year ban in England, or a revoking of his license preventing him from riding anywhere. What would you do? I agree it's unfortunate and that banning Piszcz for a year is harsh, but I didn't write the rules, did I? But it all just shows how "on the ball" the Poles are. No messing about, unlike the British over Bridger a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by schumi on Aug 9, 2009 19:18:16 GMT
I agree it's unfortunate and that banning Piszcz for a year is harsh, but I didn't write the rules, did I? But it all just shows how "on the ball" the Poles are. No messing about, unlike the British over Bridger a couple of weeks ago. The Poles can afford to ban all and sundry - we can't. Especially our own.
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Post by admin on Aug 9, 2009 19:20:00 GMT
The Poles can afford to ban all and sundry - we can't. Then don't write rules that you don't intend to enforce - it just makes the BSPA look sillier than it actually is. And that's a tough thing to do, considering how silly the BSPA is.
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Post by schumi on Aug 9, 2009 19:21:34 GMT
The Poles can afford to ban all and sundry - we can't. Then don't write rules that you don't intend to enforce - it just makes the BSPA look sillier than it actually is. And that's a tough thing to do, considering how silly the BSPA is. What exactly is it you're arguing? I didn't say he shouldn't face a ban here, just that for him it's the lesser of two evils. He rode in Poland because he had to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2009 19:44:57 GMT
And has received a two meeting ban and a £1,000 fine, which will be paid to charity. Apparently his Polish sponsors threatened to pull the plug if he didn't ride in Poland.........even the Birmingham management were sympathetic.
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Post by schumi on Aug 9, 2009 19:47:12 GMT
And has received a two meeting ban and a £1,000 fine, which will be paid to charity. Apparently his Polish sponsors threatened to pull the plug if he didn't ride in Poland.........even the Birmingham management were sympathetic. I knew it. There was a big thing being made of it in the Polish media, and I knew he'd have to cave in the end. The Poles are bullies - nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 8:06:18 GMT
I would like to nominate Tomasz "Taking The" Piszcz for not riding for Birmingham at Newport today. Hopefully the BSPA will stick to their guns and ban him for a year. Are you serious?
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Post by Genghis on Aug 10, 2009 9:59:18 GMT
I would like to nominate Tomasz "Taking The" Piszcz for not riding for Birmingham at Newport today. Hopefully the BSPA will stick to their guns and ban him for a year. Are you serious? Why wouldn't I be? He told blatant lies - see the BSPA website last Wednesday or Thursday when he stated Birmingham came first.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 10:26:29 GMT
Are you serious? Why wouldn't I be? He told blatant lies - see the BSPA website last Wednesday or Thursday when he stated Birmingham came first. You live in your own little bubble, don't you. Take some time to read the whole sequence of events, how Piszcz and Birmingham were put in an impossible position, rather than your biased (as usual) ramblings.
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Post by Genghis on Aug 10, 2009 10:36:33 GMT
Why wouldn't I be? He told blatant lies - see the BSPA website last Wednesday or Thursday when he stated Birmingham came first. You live in your own little bubble, don't you. Take some time to read the whole sequence of events, how Piszcz and Birmingham were put in an impossible position, rather than your biased (as usual) ramblings. How am I biased? - I have no bias regarding either Birmingham or Piszcz. I just don't like riders taking the piss. And on this ocassion, Tomasz live up to his name. He should have stood up to the Polish authorities, and taken out an ACU licence if necessary. Thw rules state he should be banned for a year. And I hope the BSPA enforce that. It's about time riders realised that they cannot pick and choose their British fixtures. A contract to ride for a Premier League club should be just that.
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Post by schumi on Aug 10, 2009 15:14:51 GMT
Didn't Tomasz ride for Oxford at one point?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 15:17:14 GMT
You live in your own little bubble, don't you. Take some time to read the whole sequence of events, how Piszcz and Birmingham were put in an impossible position, rather than your biased (as usual) ramblings. How am I biased? - I have no bias regarding either Birmingham or Piszcz. I just don't like riders taking the piss. And on this ocassion, Tomasz live up to his name. He should have stood up to the Polish authorities, and taken out an ACU licence if necessary. Thw rules state he should be banned for a year. And I hope the BSPA enforce that. It's about time riders realised that they cannot pick and choose their British fixtures. A contract to ride for a Premier League club should be just that. You never cease to amaze me with your crap that you spout. How can he be banned for a year for being a victim of circumstances? How has he taken the piss? As I said, study the full sequence of events and then come back and tell me it's fair to ban him for a year when he's been put in an impossible position. The BSPA have played this one exactly right. They've treated this case on it's merits and that's how any punishment should be applied in any walk of life. Not blanket bans without circumstances taken into account. I'm glad you never sit as judge and jury.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 16:53:15 GMT
You never cease to amaze me with your crap that you spout. How can he be banned for a year for being a victim of circumstances? .... The BSPA have played this one exactly right. They've treated this case on it's merits and that's how any punishment should be applied in any walk of life. Not blanket bans without circumstances taken into account. How have the BSPA played this one exactly right? They are the ones that should be up for this award for another pathetic shambles in the sport. They write a very clear and concise rule stating the punishment it will receive. First time a rider breaks this rule, they ignore it completely. Is it any wonder the British Leagues take lowest priority from the riders? It would have been harsh on Piszcz, but this was a perfect opportunity to make a stand and maybe have riders start taking things seriously over here and they bottled it. BTW: Genghis suggested that he should have stood up to the Poles and taken out an ACU license. Can any of you confirm if this would actually be possible. I didn't think that the ACU would allow you to take out a license if you were under suspension from another governing body, but I dunno where I got that idea from....
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Post by Genghis on Aug 10, 2009 16:59:49 GMT
Didn't Tomasz ride for Oxford at one point? Schumi, and how does that affect things one way or the other? If he's taking the piss, then he's taking the piss no matter who he's ridden for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2009 17:24:26 GMT
You never cease to amaze me with your crap that you spout. How can he be banned for a year for being a victim of circumstances? .... The BSPA have played this one exactly right. They've treated this case on it's merits and that's how any punishment should be applied in any walk of life. Not blanket bans without circumstances taken into account. How have the BSPA played this one exactly right? .... Because they've treated this case on its merits rather than just going for a blanket ban. They've forced Birmingham to go to Newport knowing that this is the one date that Piszcz has said all year he couldn't make. FFS, how would it be considered fair if they then banned him for a year? Tomasz Piszcz is the innocent party in this.
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