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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 6:26:16 GMT
Hans is going to be a good deal for Poole as he is a fellow Dane to Bjarne and Ch is good friends with him and the rest will look up to him so a team is born. And do not give me the garbage about Poole cheating it was manipulating the averages and all clubs are guilty of this,it`s just that Mat Ford made a bit of a blunder, making it too obvious to the followers of speedway. Screen and all the ef`s. KNOW let`s get on with the season and do not forget it is the final six in the play off`s ,In hindsight I wonder if Matt had anything to do with that? ;D
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 6:51:33 GMT
Interesting to see that Cecil is claiming crowds have nose dived this year, but he declines to actually give any figures. Crowds are significantly down this season Kev, the downside of having been successful for too long - fans can't take defeat and instead stay away refusing to return until there's a winning line up. Sad but true. Far better imo to have a team who finishes mid-table each year than one like we have. Success breeds contempt which breeds fickleness. As for the Hurry dropping...to say i'm totally pissed off with this is an understatement. Any vestige of interest I had in this EL season has just vanished. Thank God for the NL is all I can say.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2009 9:32:08 GMT
Interesting that Hans didn't want to join the Horrors as that would have mean't a couple of his mates would have had to be dropped but he doesn't mind that 4 riders have had to be dropped to bring him in at Poole.(mind you I expect they are strangers to him ) Yes, I did have to admit a wry smile at this. Soon tempered by realising one of them was Paul Hurry. Good luck wherever you end up Paul - your efforts were much appreciated. Sorry for the double post...I'm hoping it's not so anal on here as the BSF for such things.
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Post by Genghis on May 22, 2009 11:40:36 GMT
Sorry for the double post...I'm hoping it's not so anal on here as the BSF for such things. Squirlie - there are no rules on the Weird World, apart from the law of the jungle.
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Post by schumi on May 27, 2009 12:31:23 GMT
Grand Prix star Hans Andersen has blasted the knockers who have accused Poole of 'fiddling' their averages in order to make team changes. The Dane has agreed to return to British speedway with the Pirates, his first club in the UK in 2001 and 2002, and will make his second debut for the Dorset club against Eastbourne on June 3. Internet forums have been awash with claims that Poole dropped their averages on purpose to accommodate a change - and Coventry co-promoter Allen Trump also accused them of something similar in his programme notes for Monday's Sky TV meeting with Ipswich. But Andersen, talking to the Bournemouth Echo, said: "I've read some of the stuff on the internet, people saying Poole have cheated. I think that is a load of old nonsense, a lot of rubbish. "It's just worked out Bjarne (Pedersen) is not having the best of seasons and his average has dropped and I have been able to be fitted in. "Of course you can lower your average in one meeting, but Bjarne hasn’t gone down to six-and-a-half because of that. "It takes more than one meeting to do that. And a top-class rider like Bjarne would never be interested in doing that because he is stopping himself earning a living. "Hopefully now we can shut some people up because of the unfair slating Matt (Ford) has got. The claim that riders are dropping their averages is untrue. "At the end of the day riders are trying to earn a living. They are not going to ride a third of the season poorly so the team can get other people in their places." speedwaygp.com
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Post by admin on May 28, 2009 22:07:30 GMT
And Matt Ford has answered his critics: Poole boss Matt Ford is insistent that there is no case to answer with regards to average manipulationsallegations directed towards them by other promotions. "To say that we manipulated our averages to be able to accommodate Hans Andersen are totally unfounded" said an angry Ford. "At the time of us going to Swindon on May 7th I had been made fully aware that Hans was not available to us as he was featuring in the future team plans of Peterborough. Indeed, it was not a big secret that I was chasing the double signing of Magnus Zetterstrom and Daniel Nermark at the time, both riders even with their 2.5% weighting would have been accommodated within the 42 point limit that was to prevail,even with Joe Screen having to take his average from 11 matches,which incidentally, and for the record, is not a case that I was entirely happy with but, a ruling that I am prepared to accept for the overall sake of the sport. The opportunity for us to bring Hans on board only came about 10 days after that Swindon meeting and I firmly believe that all these allegations being thrown at Poole by certain other clubs are designed only to throw a smoke-screen over the actions of those certain clubs and are doing unnecessary damage to the sport". Taken from: www.poolespeedway.net
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 0:45:27 GMT
Well said, Matt and an accurate account. We were all expecting Zorro to be the replacement signing and Nermark's own site stated that he had been talking to Poole and "we shall have to see what the outcome is." As it turned out, Zorro wanted too much money and Nermark's was advised by his Dr. not to ride more matches per week than he was already committed to.
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Post by zonkers on May 29, 2009 10:10:29 GMT
Well said, Matt and an accurate account. We were all expecting Zorro to be the replacement signing and Nermark's own site stated that he had been talking to Poole and "we shall have to see what the outcome is." As it turned out, Zorro wanted too much money and Nermark's was advised by his Dr. not to ride more matches per week than he was already committed to. I disagree...... There's 3 promoters now voicing their allegations. Do you disagree with this then from Mr Bratley....? " I felt our victory over Poole was a hollow victory and I complained in writing to the BSPA about the manner in which Poole conducted themselves during the meeting. Riders waving their partners by in order that they got the bonus point, and in doing so put their partner out of a job. A rider not wanting to take part in the rerun of a race because his point would assist in putting a member of the team out of a job, who was supposed to not be put out of a job. I witnessed it all with my own eyes, this was not hearsay, I saw what was going on and why the hell should I not tell you how YOU the paying public were cheated on the evening of May 14 by Poole Speedway".
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 10:18:30 GMT
Well said, Matt and an accurate account. We were all expecting Zorro to be the replacement signing and Nermark's own site stated that he had been talking to Poole and "we shall have to see what the outcome is." As it turned out, Zorro wanted too much money and Nermark's was advised by his Dr. not to ride more matches per week than he was already committed to. I disagree...... There's 3 promoters now voicing their allegations. Do you disagree with this then from Mr Bratley....? " I felt our victory over Poole was a hollow victory and I complained in writing to the BSPA about the manner in which Poole conducted themselves during the meeting. Riders waving their partners by in order that they got the bonus point, and in doing so put their partner out of a job. A rider not wanting to take part in the rerun of a race because his point would assist in putting a member of the team out of a job, who was supposed to not be put out of a job. I witnessed it all with my own eyes, this was not hearsay, I saw what was going on and why the hell should I not tell you how YOU the paying public were cheated on the evening of May 14 by Poole Speedway".I presume Mr Bratley made representations to the referee on the night in question and followed it up in writing to the relevant authorities the following day ? I expect Bratters in on his way to Sweden to assist Hans in the GP, maybe he could inform us upon his return.
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Post by admin on May 29, 2009 13:27:40 GMT
And the BSPA have asked the Speedway Control Bureau (I remember when it was just a Board) to investigate the circumstances surrounding Poole's visits to Swindon and Peterborough: www.british-speedway.co.uk/news.php?extend.3612.2That's kicked it into the long grass then.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 14:24:34 GMT
And the BSPA have asked the Speedway Control Bureau (I remember when it was just a Board) to investigate the circumstances surrounding Poole's visits to Swindon and Peterborough: www.british-speedway.co.uk/news.php?extend.3612.2That's kicked it into the long grass then. Just have to hope that no SCB members are on holiday , otherwise this could go on until November
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 14:46:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2009 1:00:39 GMT
Well said, Matt and an accurate account. We were all expecting Zorro to be the replacement signing and Nermark's own site stated that he had been talking to Poole and "we shall have to see what the outcome is." As it turned out, Zorro wanted too much money and Nermark's was advised by his Dr. not to ride more matches per week than he was already committed to. I disagree...... There's 3 promoters now voicing their allegations. Do you disagree with this then from Mr Bratley....? " I felt our victory over Poole was a hollow victory and I complained in writing to the BSPA about the manner in which Poole conducted themselves during the meeting. Riders waving their partners by in order that they got the bonus point, and in doing so put their partner out of a job. A rider not wanting to take part in the rerun of a race because his point would assist in putting a member of the team out of a job, who was supposed to not be put out of a job. I witnessed it all with my own eyes, this was not hearsay, I saw what was going on and why the hell should I not tell you how YOU the paying public were cheated on the evening of May 14 by Poole Speedway".Having checked the speedway updates site on this Peterborough v Poole match, the Pirates only scored TWO bonus points, both of them awarded to Tomasz Piszcz! One of those bonus points came when Pedersen was on a tactical and Piszcz followed him home to take the 8-1. So where this allegation of "riders waving through their partners comes from", mystifies me! The other point I can't comment on. So yes, in part I disagree with Mick Bratley.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2009 10:43:54 GMT
Fact. I am the Promoter of Peterborough Speedway I am NOT the manager of Hans Andersen. Go on, post the whole PM you know you want to But does that mean that he has no business ties with Hans (apart from Hans being a Panthers asset) and that they are now just good friends? I don't doubt what Bratters says but it's still not clear. And that's not looking for a story which isn't there it just hasn't been put in those terms.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2009 11:27:21 GMT
An Error Has Occurred Sorry, but you have been banned from this forum. very interesting indeed ;D
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