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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2007 2:33:55 GMT
Thanks Erik. By the way, I saw your letter(?) on Hammarby's website about rider replacement. Are you hoping they'll get rid of it? Thought I'd pick up on this again. At the annual meeting of club representatives, the motion to get rid of the R/R-rule was voted down. Riders replacement will still be around in 2008.
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Post by admin on Dec 23, 2007 2:42:53 GMT
Rider replacement isn't a bad rule, per se. It is the implementation of it that makes it a good or bad rule. I believe it is a rule that is allowed to be abused in the United Kingdom.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2007 3:05:23 GMT
Rider replacement isn't a bad rule, per se. It is the implementation of it that makes it a good or bad rule. I believe it is a rule that is allowed to be abused in the United Kingdom. It's a little hard to understand the british take on the rule where almost anyone can be replaced with R/R, but then his rides can only be taken by riders with a lesser average and so on. Which is rather different to the swedish version, which is mainly abused to get over the average floor limit to avoid a fine.
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Post by schumi on Dec 23, 2007 19:07:47 GMT
It's a little hard to understand the british take on the rule where almost anyone can be replaced with R/R, but then his rides can only be taken by riders with a lesser average and so on. Which is rather different to the swedish version, which is mainly abused to get over the average floor limit to avoid a fine. Over here R/R can be anyone who has an average lower than the replaced rider, and the next highest averaged rider in the team. How does it work in Sweden?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 10:59:12 GMT
It's a little hard to understand the british take on the rule where almost anyone can be replaced with R/R, but then his rides can only be taken by riders with a lesser average and so on. Which is rather different to the swedish version, which is mainly abused to get over the average floor limit to avoid a fine. Over here R/R can be anyone who has an average lower than the replaced rider, and the next highest averaged rider in the team. How does it work in Sweden? I'm not sure I understood that Over here R/R can only be used for the two highest averaged riders in the squad, (in effect riders of GP-quality). But I have understood even lesser lights can be replaced by R/R in the UK. That's the difference?
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Post by schumi on Dec 24, 2007 11:05:17 GMT
I'm not sure I understood that Over here R/R can only be used for the two highest averaged riders in the squad, (in effect riders of GP-quality). But I have understood even lesser lights can be replaced by R/R in the UK. That's the difference? Even I didn't understand that, and I wrote it! Take the Kings Lynn team as an example 1. Tomas Topinka 9.17 2. Kozza Smith 5.00 3. Kevin Doolan 8.40 4. Shaun Tacey 5.44 5. Trevor Harding 5.99 6. John Oliver 4.33 7. Simon Lambert 3.00 Say Kevin Doolan was injured. He's the second highest averaged rider in the team, so anyone can replace him. But if, say, Trevor Harding was injured, Tomas Topinka couldn't take a R/R because he's not on a lower average, or the one immediately above the rider who is being replaced. Not sure it makes sense even now, but that's rules for you. Any member of the 1-5 can have R/R used for them, but not the reserves, so, yes, I guess that's the main difference. Thanks for the explanation.
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Post by admin on Dec 24, 2007 16:47:10 GMT
As I understand it, in Poland rider replacement is allowed for the top three averaged riders in the team at any given meeting. Now, this allows some rather interesting moves by managers. For example, if you have a high flying junior injured, you move him into the main body of the team to get rider replacement. Torun did this a few years ago when Zabik was injured.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2007 17:10:50 GMT
Not sure it makes sense even now, but that's rules for you. I think it's easier to explain like this....... Any rider up to the missing riders' average and the one immediately above him can take a R/R ride.
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Post by schumi on Jan 1, 2008 22:32:24 GMT
Kenneth Hansen signs for Dackarna and Kaj Laukkanen for Indianerna.
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Post by schumi on Jan 4, 2008 17:56:59 GMT
Kim Nilsson and Tommie Lundgren added to the Hammarby squad. I'm confident you can add Jesper B. Jensen, Tomasz Gapinski, Scott Nicholls and Joonas Kylmäkorpi aswell Schumi. All confirmed today, along with Smolinski.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2008 20:02:48 GMT
I'm confident you can add Jesper B. Jensen, Tomasz Gapinski, Scott Nicholls and Joonas Kylmäkorpi aswell Schumi. All confirmed today, along with Smolinski. I know, I wrote the piece on bajenspeedway.se
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Post by schumi on Jan 8, 2008 21:09:24 GMT
Erik, do you know why Kamil Brzozowski has been scrubbed from the Piraterna squad?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2008 21:40:58 GMT
Erik, do you know why Kamil Brzozowski has been scrubbed from the Piraterna squad? Yes. After Damian Balinski finally signed on for another year Piraterna had 10 riders with an average over 2.0. You are only allowed 9. Team manager Stefan Andersson had to pick one to leave out, and that was Kamil Brzozowski. Stefan was quoted as saying; "I've never met him and one rider had to go, it's how it works in speedway" to Motala & Vadstena Tidning.
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Post by schumi on Jan 9, 2008 20:13:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2008 3:17:52 GMT
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