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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2008 21:56:39 GMT
Taken from the official Swindon Website, and I have to say, reading this it's seems a fair decision...........but I await the Ipswich angle.  After a day of arbitration it has been confirmed Swindon’s result against Ipswich on Monday 14th April at Foxhall Heath will not be amended.
The Witches had been unhappy with Swindon's use of guest rider Joel Parsons but this afternoon's decision confirms the Robins acted legally throughout.
Robins' co-owner Terry Russell has moved to explain the sequence of events leading up to Ipswich's protest over Swindon's use of Parsons who scored seven points in the meeting.
Russell said:
"Throughout this whole process Swindon Speedway has deliberately kept a low profile. Ipswich have done all the talking and some of the comments they have released are factually incorrect.
As far as Swindon Speedway is concerned we’ve done nothing wrong and have acted fairly throughout this procedure.
It's important to point out that we initially booked Joel Parsons as a guest not because he was a track specialist but because his average fitted the jig-saw.
On Monday 14th Aril, whilst on the way to Suffolk for the meeting against
Ipswich we received a phone call from the meeting referee, Chris Gay,
informing us that a new set of average had been released via e-mail at 2.30pm that afternoon.
These new figures showed Joel Parsons' average raising and he therefore no longer fitted into our proposed line up.
We contacted Graham Reeve, the SCB consultant administrator, who agreed to look into the situation and call us back. Planning for the worst, we made contact with premier league rider Shaun Tacey to ascertain his availability if the inclusion of Joel Parsons was deemed illegal by the BSPA.
Shaun was reluctant to ride because he'd spent the weekend riding up North with Kings Lynn.
Shortly after speaking to Shaun we received a call from Graham Reeve informing us that it would be fine to use Joel Parsons as the averages that were issued at 2.30pm that afternoon would not apply.
At no point during, before or immediately after the meeting did the Ipswich promotion express their concern about the situation. They didnt lodge an appeal before the meeting and only began to get vocal when they had been defeated.
The new averages were released at 2.30pm, five hours before we were due to ride. As the management and riders were travelling to the circuit none of us had internet access and therefore tracking a replacement at that late stage would be virtually impossible.
We are satisfied by today’s decision and can now put this matter to bed."
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Post by Genghis on Jun 24, 2008 11:23:53 GMT
Ippo have been robbed. Had it been the other way around, you can bet the President of the BSPA would be making sure Parsons's points were deducted.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2008 21:18:08 GMT
Ippo have been robbed. Had it been the other way around, you can bet the President of the BSPA would be making sure Parsons's points were deducted. And there lies the crux of the problem. I think you will find at no time have our promotion deemed that Swindon "did" anything wrong, the problem lies with Graham Reeve, who over rode the meeting referee in this matter, and the Louis' feel that the rules have been flouted, and as per usual the lowly Ipswich promotion forgot their place in the hierachy of speedway's top clubs, i.e one rule for you, and we'll make them up for us  . I am glad that this is the end of the matter TBH, but I can tell you that JL is not a happy bunny. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2008 21:32:02 GMT
I can tell you that JL is not a happy bunny. I'm sure he's not and I can sympathise with him totally.......however, how can it be reasonable to move the goalposts five hours prior to a meeting starting, when everyone is actually travelling to the meeting? A totally unacceptable situation all round, for which the BSPA must shoulder the blame.............once again!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2008 18:05:18 GMT
Apparently, it is not over yet , the Louis' have been with lawyers today and apparently they will fight on. I think this is the minnows of Ipswich taking on the rule benders/manipulators tbh, and not Swindon speedway club. Obviously a matter of principal I should think. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2008 21:20:37 GMT
Apparently, it is not over yet , the Louis' have been with lawyers today and apparently they will fight on. I think this is the minnows of Ipswich taking on the rule benders/manipulators tbh, and not Swindon speedway club. Obviously a matter of principal I should think. Some might argue that the money spent on the lawyers could be better directed into finding a seventh rider!!  |
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Post by schumi on Jul 3, 2008 21:36:46 GMT
What happened to the technicality of Ipswich not paying the fee on time, or whatever it was?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 5:37:02 GMT
The statement from the tribunal said that there is a rule in the rule book that states that it is the sole responsibility of the SCB how the rules are interpreted.
If that's the case then what is the point in Ipswich getting lawyers etc. How much is is going to cost them to get some bloke or woman to tell them exactly what the tribunal told them? If the SCB have decided the outcome then surely there is no legal case against them? Because it's in the rule book. They can interpret the rules however they see fit, and have done.
Ipswich keep saying it's for the good of the sport etc etc, but surely keeping this going does the sport more harm than good.
Yes, I have a vested interest in the outcome due to being a supporter of one of the clubs involved, but I like to think I'm being objetive about it, and I find the whole thing a bit pathetic now. Just leet it lie. It was only Joel Parsons for God's sake. Nobody expected him to score sod-all before the match. Even his new average was lower than Theo Pijpers. The averages weren't released in time - though why they'd release new averages at 2.30 in the afternoon when there are meetings being staged the same day is beyond me.
It's just getting a bit daft now. This will be, what, their fourth protest? Fifth? Waste of time and money - if they actually have to pay this time. Valid protest/point at the time, but once a decision has been made by the SCB then surely it's best forgotten instead of thying to turn it into some sort of David & Goliath thing.
Ipswich have helped inflict Tactical Rides and 38.85 upon us in recent years. They can hardly complain that the "big clubs" get everything their way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 6:12:32 GMT
why they'd release new averages at 2.30 in the afternoon when there are meetings being staged the same day is beyond me. How long have you been watching speedway now? |
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Post by Genghis on Jul 4, 2008 7:24:27 GMT
It was only Joel Parsons for God's sake. Oh, that's alright then. Swindon are allowed to get away with breaking the rules because "it was only Joel Parsons". The same Joel Parsons who proved to be the match-winner. Yes, it's a technicality, but his points should be deducted. Swindon went into the match knowing that they were using an illegal rider. Five hours is plenty of time to find a replacement - for instance, I believe young Matt Wright lives locally to Ipswich. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 9:21:26 GMT
I tend to agree with the trying to find a 7th rider, however perhaps this is the start of someone actually standing up and fighting for the rules to actually be used correctly and not changed as and whenever it suits. I may be wrong, but I don't think this has anything to do with Swindon and Joel Parsons personally, just the principals in this case. We all moan constantly about the ineptness of the powers that be in speedway, and now someone is actually standing up and challenging those in power, they are being treated with derision and contempt. Or is it a case of, it's OK for the fans to make accusations about wrong doing, but not promoters actually taking a stand. Oh and genghis they didn't need Matt Wright, Shaun Tacey was loaded up ready to come to ride on the night. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2008 9:22:39 GMT
Some might argue that the money spent on the lawyers could be better directed into finding a seventh rider!! think its already been done (or almost) and according to Pete somewhat of a surprise choice! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2008 4:06:54 GMT
Some might argue that the money spent on the lawyers could be better directed into finding a seventh rider!! think its already been done (or almost) and according to Pete somewhat of a surprise choice! When/Where did Pete say this Gavin?? Wonder what he means by surprise choice  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2008 18:02:00 GMT
It was only Joel Parsons for God's sake. Oh, that's alright then. Swindon are allowed to get away with breaking the rules because "it was only Joel Parsons". The same Joel Parsons who proved to be the match-winner. Yes, it's a technicality, but his points should be deducted. Swindon went into the match knowing that they were using an illegal rider. Five hours is plenty of time to find a replacement - for instance, I believe young Matt Wright lives locally to Ipswich. Swidon went into the match knowing they were allowed to track there side by the people who run the sport . Swindon did in fact find tacey to replace parsons but was deed unfair on any club to have to change there side on the way to a match . Reading the refs report with he submitted to the appeal states and at no time did ipswich complain or request to ride under protest because of joel parsons . Ipswich never moan intil they were beat and also fail to put there appeal in on time . Cant wait to it go's to court so everybody can laugh at it ,what a waste of time and money . |
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Post by Genghis on Jul 5, 2008 19:49:34 GMT
Swidon went into the match knowing they were allowed to track there side by the people who run the sport . So Swindon can break the rules because the President of the BSPA says so. |
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