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Post by schumi on Mar 24, 2008 10:37:31 GMT
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2008 11:12:32 GMT
But is this an early admission that the 38.85 limit hasn't done the job it was supposed to do? After all, the 38.85 limit was to bring "parity" and an end to one-sided meetings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2008 11:19:11 GMT
Dont care about the EL , but from a PL point of view then absolutely not . I've always wanted the away victory more rewarded as it would , to a certain extent , curtail the chances of the likes of Rye House , Kings Lynn or Sheffield capitalising on their massive home advantages . Last year Rye House were crowned champions , but won less league matches away from home than Glasgow who finished eighth . Too many teams since the advent of the bonus point have prospered through it .
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2008 11:24:57 GMT
Dont care about the EL , but from a PL point of view then absolutely not . I've always wanted the away victory more rewarded as it would , to a certain extent , curtail the chances of the likes of Rye House , Kings Lynn or Sheffield capitalising on their massive home advantages . Last year Rye House were crowned champions , but won less league matches away from home than Glasgow who finished eighth . Too many teams since the advent of the bonus point have prospered through it . Paulco - yes, BUT why not have three points for an away win AND an aggregate point. It's the best of both worlds, surely?
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2008 11:28:30 GMT
Yes, young paulco, I think Rosco is being a little disingenuous here - he fancies his side's chances of knocking up some hefty wins at the Abbey Stadium, especially following yesterday, and with Leigh Adams around he knows away humiliations will be few and far between. He doesn't fancy the Robins' chances of away wins, but sees bonus points aplenty.
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2008 11:30:02 GMT
Paulco - yes, BUT why not have three points for an away win AND an aggregate point. It's the best of both worlds, surely? No, that's just silly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2008 11:30:59 GMT
Paulco - yes, BUT why not have three points for an away win AND an aggregate point. It's the best of both worlds, surely? That's just being greedy ;D
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2008 11:32:00 GMT
Paulco - yes, BUT why not have three points for an away win AND an aggregate point. It's the best of both worlds, surely? No, that's just silly. Why's it silly? It keeps matches alive and also offers an extra incentive for winning away. What's silly about that?
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2008 11:35:21 GMT
Why's it silly? It keeps matches alive and also offers an extra incentive for winning away. What's silly about that? Because you might as well give 4 points for an away win.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2008 11:42:40 GMT
I'll never understand why they got rid of it in the first place
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Post by Genghis on Mar 24, 2008 11:43:59 GMT
Why's it silly? It keeps matches alive and also offers an extra incentive for winning away. What's silly about that? Because you might as well give 4 points for an away win. Sub - around 80-85% of matches are won by the home team, often by 10 points or more. There needs to be something to keep these sort of matches alive. That's why the aggregate point is needed - and it very rarely changes the destination of the league title.... last year, and the year that Exeter won (2000), are two exceptions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2008 11:48:59 GMT
Because you might as well give 4 points for an away win. Sub - around 80-85% of matches are won by the home team, often by 10 points or more. There needs to be something to keep these sort of matches alive. That's why the aggregate point is needed - an dit very rarely changes the destination of the league title.... last year, and the year that Exeter won (2000), are two exceptions. Only really Exeter mate , Kings Lynn won the league title last year and by quite a distance . There are valid arguements on both sides , but it just used to annoy me seeing the likes of Sheffield and Rye House in false positions because of their massive home track advantage . It's debatable whether Rye House would have even qualified for the play-offs last season had it not been for the 14 or 15 bonus points .
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2008 11:49:42 GMT
The thing I have against the bonus point is it being dished out on the result of a race-off when the scores are level - if the sides are even after 30 heats, just don't bother with the bonus point.
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Post by admin on Mar 24, 2008 11:53:21 GMT
Only really Exeter mate , Kings Lynn won the league title last year and by quite a distance . There are valid arguements on both sides , but it just used to annoy me seeing the likes of Sheffield and Rye House in false positions because of their massive home track advantage . It's debatable whether Rye House would have even qualified for the play-offs last season had it not been for the 14 or 15 bonus points . I'm with paulco on this one - the bonus point is supposed to encourage away sides, but all it often does is encourage the home side to knock up as big a score as is possible. And that's probably why Rosco wants it back. I think I would be right in saying that in last year's Elite League, it was Swindon that knocked up the biggest wins at home.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2008 11:56:23 GMT
Away from the bonus point arguement for a minute . I find the Ht 15 experiment in qualification process for the PL Pairs ( in PT matches ) an interesting developement .
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