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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 20:41:18 GMT
Oh dear, can of worms been opened on BSF now. Apparently several members of this forum (and a couple of others) are unpatriotic cos we didn't support Team GB. Some idiot has now likened Team GB to the British Expeditionary Force in WW2!
Schumi has opened up a front, and it looks like Steve Hone is our Colonel in Chief. I'm quite happy to be a humble foot soldier.
Up the foreigners ;D
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Post by schumi on Jul 17, 2007 20:49:21 GMT
Schumi has opened up a front You forgot the "very large" bit. Schumi is pissed off with being told what to do all the time. If they want to think I'm bad I'm bloody well going to be. And if anyone tells them what I posted about how pleased I was to see a Brit win the British GP there'll be BIG trouble. ;D
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Post by Genghis on Jul 17, 2007 21:07:45 GMT
Schumi is pissed off with being told what to do all the time. If they want to think I'm bad I'm bloody well going to be. And if anyone tells them what I posted about how pleased I was to see a Brit win the British GP there'll be BIG trouble. ;D Schumi, I'm pretty much the same. I am quite patriotic most of the time and was going bananas during the final at Cardiff. And last night I was cheering the Brits (and also the Russians towards the end of the meeting!). However, if someone tells me not to do something, I'm even more detemined to it. I've been the same for a long time - I was once told not to cheer for Bruce Penhall because he was American, so my solution was to start cheering all the Yanks (Sigalos, the Morans, etc). All the best Rob
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Post by donsking on Jul 17, 2007 21:18:34 GMT
As I don't contribute to the BSF anymore, I'll confine my thoughts to here.
Britain is amazingly poor at most team sports and whilst I'm usually right behind the underdogs, I'm not going to go all out to support a team that you know isn't going to get very far; I'd much rather follow the people who excite me and if I'd been at Coventry on Monday night, it sounds like that would've been the Russians.
I was pleased Chris Harris won at Cardiff, mainly because of the manner in which he won, partly because he beat our perceived number 1 and a bit because he's a Brit, and it was nice that a Brit won the British GP and not the one who might've been considered a better bet to do it.
But, if a Swede, or a Dane, or a Yank had ridden that race in the same way, I would've been just as excited.
I stopped trying to be fiercely patriotic a long time ago, when I realised that there are many things that other countries do so much better and, when we do lead the way, it's normally at a price no mere mortal can afford.
I drive a foreign car, I wear foreign clothes, I imagine I mainly eat imported food and I use foreign electrical and computer equipment, because it's better and/or cheaper than any home grown stuff; why then would I go out of my way to support Team GB, something which is very often an inferior product?
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Post by stevehone on Jul 17, 2007 21:28:33 GMT
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i wish you'd post that on the BSF, it seems we become an outcast if we don't support Team GB .... well you know what, fuck em, i'll cheer for who i want, and if it's not the same as everyone else then fuck em again.
and another thing ... something else that puts me off ... Team GB.
it should be England, and THAT would be something to be proud of (at a push).
i grew up supporting ENGLAND .. in proper test matches against the Danes and the Yanks, the cross of St George on the body colour, with the riders proud to ride for England
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 21:36:18 GMT
But can you claim to be English on any official forms. Can you hell as like you have to be bloody British I'm not British I'm fucking ENGLISH
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 21:38:38 GMT
Well said Steve! Where's the Welsh/Scottish/Irish riders.....call a spade a spade - and call ENGLAND fucking England! Like you Donsking I support who I WANT to support and to get lectured by morons about not supporting 'Team GB' just pisses me off! Over the years I have been very loyal - and always supported the country which my favourite riders rode for - In the early '80 I liked Bo Petersen and so supported the Danes (except Nielsen - never could stand the bloke!), in the late 80's/90's it was the Yanks (Sam and Ronnie - as well as the other yanks in the Wolves team like Dukie and Rob Pfetzing). Since PK joined the Wolves the Swedes have been 'my' team - and considering the Swedish team last night was more like a Wolves select, why on earth would I support 'Team GB'?!
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Post by donsking on Jul 17, 2007 21:45:04 GMT
donsking i wish you'd post that on the BSF, it seems we become an outcast if we don't support Team GB .... well you know what, fuck em, i'll cheer for who i want, and if it's not the same as everyone else then fuck em again. and another thing ... something else that puts me off ... Team GB. it should be England, and THAT would be something to be proud of (at a push). i grew up supporting ENGLAND .. in proper test matches against the Danes and the Yanks, the cross of St George on the body colour, with the riders proud to ride for England Quite frankly Steve, if I became an outcast on the BSF it would give me great pleasure, I've been trying to cancel my membership there for two days and no-one wants to play ball (must be something to do with trying to artificially massage their membership figures). As for Team GB, are there any non English riders in the team? I know I'll be corrected double quick time, but I can't think of any International standard Welsh or Irish riders in the past, but there's been a few Scots that could've been up there, just a shame there don't seem to be any around now. If they want to whip up a bit of patriotism, maybe they should race as the British Lions, it has a more 'attacking' feel to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 21:49:58 GMT
Steve, you need a bloody good dose of national service, that might instill some patriotic pride ;D I find it difficult to believe some of the fucking shit that has been spouted about the great win by Team GB. Fuck me I could have won a couple of those races I'm sure fog
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 21:51:19 GMT
And as I said on the BSF - Last night's meeting was pretty much a run off for 4th place in the final anyway!
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Post by stevehone on Jul 17, 2007 21:52:02 GMT
Steve, you need a bloody good dose of national service, that might instill some patriotic pride only if i did it for England and not Team GB
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 21:54:40 GMT
I know I'll be corrected double quick time, but I can't think of any International standard Welsh or Irish riders in the past Well Irish riders wouldn't be eligible for the GB team anyway, but hasn't Phil Morris ridden for 'England' in the past? Going further back, Freddie Williams was a World Champion wasn't he?
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Post by donsking on Jul 17, 2007 22:01:08 GMT
I know I'll be corrected double quick time, but I can't think of any International standard Welsh or Irish riders in the past Well Irish riders wouldn't be eligible for the GB team anyway, but hasn't Phil Morris ridden for 'England' in the past? Going further back, Freddie Williams was a World Champion wasn't he? Is there a 'thumbing your nose, ner ner ne ner neerr' smiley? ;D ;D And surely Northern Irish riders would qualify for Team GB?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 22:10:59 GMT
Apparently several members of this forum (and a couple of others) are unpatriotic cos we didn't support Team GB. Personally, I've always found it rather hard to warm to our national speedway team, be it England or GB. I've usually never been a particular fan of certain incumbents at any given time, so have largely watched WTC and test matches with a certain neutral detachment. However, the use of the wrong name for the national team has always riled me, when quite indisputably we have always officially ridden as Great Britain in FIM competitions. If people wish to have an England team instead, well officially change it, but until then it's surely not beyond the powers-that-be to get something as simple as the team name right. After years of getting it wrong, they then introduced the dreadful 'Team GB' moniker which doesn't even conform to the proper rules of English (or should that be British grammar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2007 22:19:09 GMT
What fucked me up when it came to national teams, was when Barry Briggs, Ivan Mauger et al used to wear the Union Jack bib. Then all of the South Africans that played cricket for the MCC/England.
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