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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2007 21:17:35 GMT
Best rider of the 80's(certainly late 80's)-
........Step forward x4 World Champion
HANS NIELSEN.
Immaculate in style, sublime on track. The man from Denmark gets my vote as the BEST. Snubbed by Olsen, who favoured Gundo(?) Hans had to not only beat the opposition but beat the danish officials who simply ignored him IMO. Should have had 6 titles, but that is what makes him a genius, as every genius has a flaw.
Think his tally of overall World Championship medals, makes him the best IMO.
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Post by admin on Jul 5, 2007 21:33:16 GMT
Best rider of the 80's(certainly late 80's)- ........Step forward x4 World Champion HANS NIELSEN. Immaculate in style, sublime on track. The man from Denmark gets my vote as the BEST. Snubbed by Olsen, who favoured Gundo(?) Hans had to not only beat the opposition but beat the danish officials who simply ignored him IMO. Should have had 6 titles, but that is what makes him a genius, as every genius has a flaw. Think his tally of overall World Championship medals, makes him the best IMO. I suspect young Peasley (genghis) will agree with you. And I wouldn't disagree with you. The guy had a lot of class. And, of course, in 1987 he paid a visit to Berrington Lough and then another for Steve McDermott's testimonial a couple of years later. A real shame the initial running of McDermott's testimonial was called off due to the weather, since both Nielsen and Gundersen had agreed to ride. By the time the testimonial was re-staged, I think Gundersen had been involved in the crash that would end his career.
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Post by Genghis on Jul 5, 2007 21:37:38 GMT
My views on Hans Nielsen are already well documented.
But, to reiterate, he was the most COMPLETE rider of all-time. He had it all - super gating skills, supreme at team-riding, impossibly consistent, the ability to come from the back with the minimum of fuss (so much so that some branded him a gater, just watch a video of Day 1 of the 1987 World Final!), complete bike control (he once stopped the bike on a sixpence to avoid hitting Kai Niemi had fallen directly in front of him at Ipswich, while when he suffered a seized engine at Oxford, he stepped off the bike onto the centre green and watched the bike career into the fence).
And he stayed at the top for longer than any other rider, there's NINETEEN years between his first FIM Gold Medal (1978, World Team Cup, teenage Nielsen top-scored for Denmark) and his last (1997, World Team Cup ran over World Pairs format).
22 FIM Gold Medals, 19 appearances in the World Final / Grand Prix series, both are records.
And his record in the World Team Cup is so superior to any other rider, it's embarrassing. No other rider wore the racejacket of thier nation more proudly.
At league level? An 11.83 BL average in 1986, and a 11.73 average in 1987. Amazing stats.
Nielsen has to be amongst the best 3 riders of all-time. And as I said before, when it comes to the most complete Speedway rider of all-time, look no further.
All the best Rob
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2007 14:23:47 GMT
My views on Hans Nielsen are already well documented. But, to reiterate, he was the most COMPLETE rider of all-time. He had it all - super gating skills, supreme at team-riding, impossibly consistent, the ability to come from the back with the minimum of fuss (so much so that some branded him a gater, just watch a video of Day 1 of the 1987 World Final!), complete bike control (he once stopped the bike on a sixpence to avoid hitting Kai Niemi had fallen directly in front of him at Ipswich, while when he suffered a seized engine at Oxford, he stepped off the bike onto the centre green and watched the bike career into the fence). And he stayed at the top for longer than any other rider, there's NINETEEN years between his first FIM Gold Medal (1978, World Team Cup, teenage Nielsen top-scored for Denmark) and his last (1997, World Team Cup ran over World Pairs format). 22 FIM Gold Medals, 19 appearances in the World Final / Grand Prix series, both are records. And his record in the World Team Cup is so superior to any other rider, it's embarrassing. No other rider wore the racejacket of thier nation more proudly. At league level? An 11.83 BL average in 1986, and a 11.73 average in 1987. Amazing stats. Nielsen has to be amongst the best 3 riders of all-time. And as I said before, when it comes to the most complete Speedway rider of all-time, look no further. All the best Rob Brillant Rob, summed up what i was trying to say. I am maybe a little young to fully understand what he was really like as i only started going to speedway in 1991. Met the guy at berrrington, as he sat in his car for about half an hour, TRUE legend. Just wished i had truly seen him in his pomp. Hopefully one day i may get to meet the great man.
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Post by jimblanchard on Jul 8, 2007 19:06:14 GMT
Is Erik Gundersen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 19:23:38 GMT
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Post by admin on Jul 8, 2007 19:24:09 GMT
Or some would say the one and only, meanest of the mean, Ole Olsen. I'm sure that schumi would go for Nicki P. Personally, I'd have to go with Goldmember and young Peasley. Hans earned a lot of friends in the north of Northumberland when he bent over backwards to make an appearance at Berrington Lough in 1987. To many around here, including me, he's the Main Dane, whether statistics show it or not.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 20:21:17 GMT
My views on Hans Nielsen are already well documented. But, to reiterate, he was the most COMPLETE rider of all-time. He had it all - super gating skills, supreme at team-riding, impossibly consistent, the ability to come from the back with the minimum of fuss (so much so that some branded him a gater, just watch a video of Day 1 of the 1987 World Final!), complete bike control (he once stopped the bike on a sixpence to avoid hitting Kai Niemi had fallen directly in front of him at Ipswich, while when he suffered a seized engine at Oxford, he stepped off the bike onto the centre green and watched the bike career into the fence). And he stayed at the top for longer than any other rider, there's NINETEEN years between his first FIM Gold Medal (1978, World Team Cup, teenage Nielsen top-scored for Denmark) and his last (1997, World Team Cup ran over World Pairs format). 22 FIM Gold Medals, 19 appearances in the World Final / Grand Prix series, both are records. And his record in the World Team Cup is so superior to any other rider, it's embarrassing. No other rider wore the racejacket of thier nation more proudly. At league level? An 11.83 BL average in 1986, and a 11.73 average in 1987. Amazing stats. Nielsen has to be amongst the best 3 riders of all-time. And as I said before, when it comes to the most complete Speedway rider of all-time, look no further. All the best Rob Nielsen demonstrating his complete mastery of the bike, avoiding riders,cleaning up riders, etc,etc, www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgX8frsd66Ywww.youtube.com/watch?v=eRp5E5i7I_Mwww.youtube.com/watch?v=eRp5E5i7I_M ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 20:28:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 21:39:52 GMT
Nielsen has to be amongst the best 3 riders of all-time. If you consider the other two to be Ivan Mauger and Tony Rickardsson, I see the worrying trend developing of me agreeing with you.
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Post by admin on Jul 8, 2007 21:53:32 GMT
No, Bruce Cribb has to be in there somewhere.
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Post by jimblanchard on Jul 8, 2007 21:58:13 GMT
Ove Fundin? Your man might creep into the top 10 at this rate guys... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2007 21:58:34 GMT
No, Bruce Cribb has to be in there somewhere. I once saw him race around the Hackney track on his ice bike - now that was an experience!!
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Post by jimblanchard on Jul 8, 2007 22:00:58 GMT
No, Bruce Cribb has to be in there somewhere. I once saw him race around the Hackney track on his ice bike - now that was an experience!! For him or you Kev? ;D
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Post by admin on Jul 8, 2007 22:04:23 GMT
No, Bruce Cribb has to be in there somewhere. I once saw him race around the Hackney track on his ice bike - now that was an experience!! That would be the 1984 KO Cup Final between the cruel, crazy town and the Kestrels, I believe. I think he rode his ice bike at the end of both legs of the final, which Hackney won against a depleted Bandits side. Of course, that was in the days when guests were considered an abomination in the National League, so Berwick had to soldier on for much of the season minus No 1 Steve McDermott and Charlie McKinna who both suffered broken legs. McDermott never truly recovered from his. Cribb also rode his ice bike at Brough Park after an open meeting - Marlboro Pairs, or something. Well, the meeting was abandoned after Ht 6 or 7, but that didn't stop Cribbie from going out to perform on his ice bike.
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