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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2009 16:40:54 GMT
Didn't think F1 had relegation. Well of course there was pre-qualifying a few years back, where the likes of Brabham and Martin Brundle occasionally found themselves in the ignominous position of having to qualify for the qualifying sessions first thing on a Friday morning. That's if they were even allowed out for pre-qualifying, which some teams that turned up weren't.  |
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Post by Genghis on Aug 4, 2009 12:34:39 GMT
Didn't think F1 had relegation. Well of course there was pre-qualifying a few years back, where the likes of Brabham and Martin Brundle occasionally found themselves in the ignominous position of having to qualify for the qualifying sessions first thing on a Friday morning. That's if they were even allowed out for pre-qualifying, which some teams that turned up weren't. Ah, those were the days, with 40+ cars scrabbling for 26 starting places. F1 was in such a healthy state... what happened? Oh yes, Mosley came in.  |
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Post by schumi on Aug 5, 2009 14:27:36 GMT
I see Williams blocked Ferrari's request to allow Schumacher a day of testing in the F60, as the rules state testing is banned during the season. Red Bull and Toro Rosso followed suit, saying Jaime Alguersuari wasn't allowed to test before making his debut.
My thoughts:
1..I don't think Ferrari should have special dispensation - the rules say no testing, and there should be no exceptions.
2..However, I do think those teams who blocked it should have the balls to give their real reasons - they're scared Schumacher's going to come back and beat them. It's nothing to do with Jaime not being allowed to test - in fact, it's been said that Toro Rosso didn't even ask for a test for the Spaniard. That's down to poor team management, surely?
3..And Schumacher goes into this race at a disadvantage anyway, having never driven the Valencia circuit.
Anyway, 17 days and counting...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 14:42:28 GMT
it's been said that Toro Rosso didn't even ask for a test for the Spaniard. That's down to poor team management, surely? Well if the rules stated that no in-season testing is allowed (or only at specific times - it's hard to keep track ), then those surely are rules so what's the point of asking? Why do Ferrari continually expect that the rules of the game shouldn't apply to them? Whilst I can see why teams might want to allow substitute drivers to get some practice laps under their belts, where does it all end? Furthermore, what's to stop teams claiming they need to make a driver change in order to get some performance testing in, only to say their original driver is fit after all once they've got their test data? At the end of the day, the limits on testing are there for a reason, not least to keep costs under control. Why does Schumi need to practice anyway - he surely knows his way around an F1 car by now? |
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Post by schumi on Aug 5, 2009 14:59:21 GMT
Well if the rules stated that no in-season testing is allowed (or only at specific times - it's hard to keep track ), then those surely are rules so what's the point of asking? Why do Ferrari continually expect that the rules of the game shouldn't apply to them? The ban on testing was a money saving measure. I guess they could have argued it was a safety issue - many of the current crop were expressing concerns about the danger Alguersuari posed having never driven an F1 car before. And anyway, the best teams are the ones who take advantage of any loopholes in the rules - look at the Brawn diffusers which enabled them to get so far ahead in the championship while their competitors were playing catch-up. Whilst I can see why teams might want to allow substitute drivers to get some practice laps under their belts, where does it all end? Furthermore, what's to stop teams claiming they need to make a driver change in order to get some performance testing in, only to say their original driver is fit after all once they've got their test data? Still a cynic then, Wibbs?  At the end of the day, the limits on testing are there for a reason, not least to keep costs under control. Why does Schumi need to practice anyway - he surely knows his way around an F1 car by now? Well, it's a different steering wheel completely - although he's able to use a simulator for that. The tyres are back to slicks - although you could argue he has driven on those in the past. And the car is completely new to him - but the same can be said for Jaime. Although then we're back to my original arguement, and going round in circles.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2009 16:21:27 GMT
And the car is completely new to him - but the same can be said for Jaime. Although then we're back to my original arguement, and going round in circles. I'm sure someone with the experience of Schumacher will be able to adapt, and in any case, don't they have a couple of free practice sessions on the Friday anyway? Why can't he get to grips with the car then? With respect to Jaime Alguersuari, surely reserve drivers should have practiced in the car before the start of the season? I realise he was brought in instead of Brendon Hartley, but then why were Red Bull/Toro Rosso allowed to do that in the first place? For a billion dollar sport, F1 can be pretty farcical at times. |
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Post by schumi on Aug 9, 2009 19:02:22 GMT
11 days (until Friday practise) and counting...
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Post by Genghis on Aug 9, 2009 19:11:15 GMT
11 days (until Friday practise) and counting... Is it 100% now Schumi or has he still got to pass the medical? |
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Post by schumi on Aug 9, 2009 19:17:19 GMT
Still got to pass the medical. But fingers crossed.
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Post by Genghis on Aug 9, 2009 19:23:28 GMT
Still got to pass the medical. But fingers crossed. Well, after all the build up, it would be a pity if he didn't drive. Also whichever way it goes, I get to have a laugh. If Scumacher is better than Kimi, I can snigger at Kimi geing beaten by a 40-year-old. And if Kimi is better than Schumacher, then it's further poof that Schumacher can't be the best of all-time. Either way I win ;D |
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Post by schumi on Aug 11, 2009 7:48:54 GMT
Breaking news: Michael Schumacher has reportedly called off his F1 comeback. According to the Associated Press news agency, Schumacher himself has said he cannot return due to a neck injury he suffered in February. More just as soon as we can write it... PlanetF1. Gutted.  |
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Post by zonkers on Aug 11, 2009 10:21:23 GMT
Breaking news: Michael Schumacher has reportedly called off his F1 comeback. According to the Associated Press news agency, Schumacher himself has said he cannot return due to a neck injury he suffered in February. More just as soon as we can write it... PlanetF1. Gutted.  |
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Post by Genghis on Aug 16, 2009 8:25:59 GMT
Oh bollocks, I was looking forward to the old geezer returning. Was his zimmer frame too big to fit through Spanish customs. |
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