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Post by schumi on Oct 8, 2007 22:36:57 GMT
And you look back through that list of names and see how many are now making a name for themselves....... Gafurov, Tomicek and Kroner to name three........... Waggy was ahead of his time. Remind me how many of those currently ride for Lakeside? None of this "asset" business either. And the temptation to reply with so many other things is killing me. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2007 22:40:45 GMT
And you look back through that list of names and see how many are now making a name for themselves....... Gafurov, Tomicek and Kroner to name three........... Waggy was ahead of his time. Yes they would fit nicely into todays Oxford team. Which brings us back to the start of our circle......... if Lanney had a clue what he was doing, I'm convinced Oxford wouldn't be in the state they are now. And that is said with the greatest respect for what Mr Trump has done trying to resurect something from the ashes at Cowley.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2007 22:44:48 GMT
And you look back through that list of names and see how many are now making a name for themselves....... Gafurov, Tomicek and Kroner to name three........... Waggy was ahead of his time. Remind me how many of those currently ride for Lakeside? None of this "asset" business either. And the temptation to reply with so many other things is killing me. ;D As you well know, none of them are 'currently' riding for Lakeside. Tobi has moved to pastures new at Ipswich and has been a shining light in an otherwise dire season, Lubos has proved himself to be the best of the Czechs in the memorial meeting yesterday and Renat, while not currently riding over here is a highly rated youngster as proven by Eastbournes attempts to bring him over.
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Post by schumi on Oct 8, 2007 22:48:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2007 22:58:16 GMT
Indeed it doesn't, but interesting to note that young Kjastas Poudzhuks was in that meeting.......... another from Waggy's class of '05.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 13:10:05 GMT
Sorry for the scrappy post (on a different computer and missing some buttons)
KevH wrote: Clearly you don't read his weekly programme notes tony? Sorry no, long way to go to buy a programme, if they are published anywhere online could you post the link as the edited highlights that have made their way onto threads on here have certainly been interesting
KevH wrote: He's created a revolution down by the side of the lake, and would no doubt do the same at BSPA towers if allowed. That's where the problem lies though, the BSPA (in it's current form) wouldn't allow him the opportunity as they are all looking after #1. Stan has gone on record as saying big changes are needed, but my guess is the majority of promoters will fight him on most fronts. Sad but true
KevH wrote: I've been following this sport which we all love for over 30 years now........ I've seen good promoters, bad promoters, downright crap promoters and everything in between.
Interesting that both Stan and Cookie were guests of Sandhu at the play-off final though. Again, down to his 'promoting' skills which may better employed 'promoting' rather than running the sport
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 16:20:33 GMT
if Lanney had a clue what he was doing, I'm convinced Oxford wouldn't be in the state they are now. Well, it was hardly that lots of promoters were lining-up in the wings to replace Waggy. Sadly, given a little bit of knowledge about Lanney's backing (or lack thereof), you knew it was all likely to end in tears. I think he tried to make a decent go of it, but you'd have to be mad to stake everything on Elite League speedway in the current climate. The one big mistake Lanney made was employing Rickardsson for a handful of matches. That was never going to work-out, and not even in hindsight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 18:15:14 GMT
Sorry for the scrappy post (on a different computer and missing some buttons) KevH wrote: Clearly you don't read his weekly programme notes tony? Sorry no, long way to go to buy a programme, if they are published anywhere online could you post the link as the edited highlights that have made their way onto threads on here have certainly been interestingKevH wrote: He's created a revolution down by the side of the lake, and would no doubt do the same at BSPA towers if allowed. That's where the problem lies though, the BSPA (in it's current form) wouldn't allow him the opportunity as they are all looking after #1. Stan has gone on record as saying big changes are needed, but my guess is the majority of promoters will fight him on most fronts. Sad but trueKevH wrote: I've been following this sport which we all love for over 30 years now........ I've seen good promoters, bad promoters, downright crap promoters and everything in between. Interesting that both Stan and Cookie were guests of Sandhu at the play-off final though. Again, down to his 'promoting' skills which may better employed 'promoting' rather than running the sporttonym, I'm not aware of an online version of Stanley's programme notes, sorry. On your last point, how about we change one word in an attempt to placate you? Stanley should be charged with promoting British Speedway............. does that sound better?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2007 19:24:49 GMT
tonym, I'm not aware of an online version of Stanley's programme notes, sorry. Shame, if any Hammers fan is looking for something to do over the long winter months... On your last point, how about we change one word in an attempt to placate you? Stanley should be charged with promoting British Speedway............. does that sound better? Dont think I need to be placated (in truth we probably agree more than disagree about the need for change at the top of the sport) but I would say the sport needs organising rather than promoting. There are some reasonable 'promoters' around but its all too disjointed and the sport as a whole limps from crisis to crisis which is to the detriment of all promoters, good and bad. Again I am not saying Mr Douglas is not the man to take the sport by the scruff of the neck and give it a dam good shake but promoting is not the first thing required IMO
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Post by donsking on Oct 9, 2007 22:29:16 GMT
tonym, I'm not aware of an online version of Stanley's programme notes, sorry. Shame, if any Hammers fan is looking for something to do over the long winter months... On your last point, how about we change one word in an attempt to placate you? Stanley should be charged with promoting British Speedway............. does that sound better? Dont think I need to be placated (in truth we probably agree more than disagree about the need for change at the top of the sport) but I would say the sport needs organising rather than promoting. There are some reasonable 'promoters' around but its all too disjointed and the sport as a whole limps from crisis to crisis which is to the detriment of all promoters, good and bad. Again I am not saying Mr Douglas is not the man to take the sport by the scruff of the neck and give it a dam good shake but promoting is not the first thing required IMO I'm with you Tony (but that will come as no surprise!); give us a sport worth promoting and I'm sure Stuart will do a good job, until then, let him stick with promoting his little corner of speedway and let's get something a whole lot more coherent to present to the great unwashed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2007 21:07:10 GMT
OK, now the points limit has been announced, like it or not, team building can begin in earnest. Lakeside have only officially anounced Ricky Kling so far, but have gone on record and hinted strongly that Andreas Jonsson, Adam Shields, Joonas Kylmakorpi and 'another' have all agreed terms. So, it looks like we'll have:- 1. Andreas Jonsson (8.35) 2. 3. Adam Shields (7.40) 4. 5. Joonas Kylmakorpi (6.12) 6. Ricky Kling (3.49) 7. Which would account for 25.36 of the 38.85 limit, therefore leaving 13.49 for the remaining places. That would allow us to finalise our team by including Leigh Lanham, Lubos Tomicek and Henning Bager, and still leave us almost a point below the limit!!! Personally however, I don't think that will be the way that Stanley and the Cook Monster go...... I've got a feeling that the as yet unnamed rider, could be quite a coup. No worries from this Hammer fan that Young Stanley's revolution will be gaining a few r.p.m's in 2008 - onwards and upwards as they say!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2007 21:46:52 GMT
Good top 3 there Kev! They definatly need to have Kling starting at reserve too.....could be a good year for the 'Ammers!
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Post by schumi on Dec 1, 2007 21:52:43 GMT
The only one I'd have reservations about, unfortunately, is Lubos. He's committed to riding for Holsted and Rospiggarna, and whilst that wouldn't usually stop other riders, his Czech commitments seem to affect his rides at Lakeside. What's his average? I think he's the one who might be sacrificed for a new signing, if anyone, but still a good asset to have for the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2007 22:17:10 GMT
The only one I'd have reservations about, unfortunately, is Lubos. He's committed to riding for Holsted and Rospiggarna, and whilst that wouldn't usually stop other riders, his Czech commitments seem to affect his rides at Lakeside. What's his average? I think he's the one who might be sacrificed for a new signing, if anyone, but still a good asset to have for the future. Lubos' average is 3.37, so definately worth considering, but I do agree with your reservations about his availability.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2007 22:34:34 GMT
The only one I'd have reservations about, unfortunately, is Lubos. He's committed to riding for Holsted and Rospiggarna, and whilst that wouldn't usually stop other riders, his Czech commitments seem to affect his rides at Lakeside. What's his average? I think he's the one who might be sacrificed for a new signing, if anyone, but still a good asset to have for the future. Lubos' average is 3.37, so definately worth considering, but I do agree with your reservations about his availability. & Lanham is 4.94 so you could fit in a 5 pointer
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