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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 21:16:36 GMT
So lets get this right........prior to the changes, the extremely unfancied Pirates go to Elite favourites Swindon, use both tacticals and lose 56-39......the much more fancied Bees hit Wiltshire...use both tacticals and lose 56-39........then the strongly fancied west ham visit the Abbey.....use both tacticals and lose.......54-36..
And Trump and Snow White have the gall to accuse Poole of serious average manipulation................Revolution my fucking arse....
And Richardson has another of his famous, start like a runaway train and fizzle out like a damp squib, nights.....
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Post by schumi on May 28, 2009 21:22:30 GMT
So lets get this right........prior to the changes, the extremely unfancied Pirates go to Elite favourites Swindon, use both tacticals and lose 56-39......the much more fancied Bees hit Wiltshire...use both tacticals and lose 56-39........then the strongly fancied west ham visit the Abbey.....use both tacticals and lose.......54-36.. And Trump and Snow White have the gall to accuse Poole of serious average manipulation................Revolution my fucking arse.... And Richardson has another of his famous, start like a runaway train and fizzle out like a damp squib, nights..... So much for unbiased - you're very anti-Lakeside, hatchy. Lakeside lost both their reserves, and, as I pointed out to you earlier, Swindon now have Zagar. No excuses - I fully expected the Hammers to lose tonight, and they did.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 21:33:45 GMT
So lets get this right........prior to the changes, the extremely unfancied Pirates go to Elite favourites Swindon, use both tacticals and lose 56-39......the much more fancied Bees hit Wiltshire...use both tacticals and lose 56-39........then the strongly fancied west ham visit the Abbey.....use both tacticals and lose.......54-36.. And Trump and Snow White have the gall to accuse Poole of serious average manipulation................Revolution my fucking arse.... And Richardson has another of his famous, start like a runaway train and fizzle out like a damp squib, nights..... So much for unbiased - you're very anti-Lakeside, hatchy. Lakeside lost both their reserves, and, as I pointed out to you earlier, Swindon now have Zagar. No excuses - I fully expected the Hammers to lose tonight, and they did. If i currently appear anti-west ham Schumster its only because i am fuming with Snow White and the Quiet Promoter for stirring up an unwanted ridiculous can of worms, imagine if this went to a court of law, and they had to argue why they lost by 18 points fair and square but the lesser team from Poole cheated when they lost by 17...........ludicrous.... Hope Robson and the Team England star are ok, the updates site suggested Mear walked to the ambulance but didn't say much about Robson.
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Post by schumi on May 28, 2009 21:36:32 GMT
Fuming? From the man who doesn't take life too seriously? I'll overlook the comparison you made of me to genghis, who you left the forum to avoid, and kiss and make up.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 21:38:33 GMT
Zagar may be an improvement on Batchelor but his 12 from 5, compared with Batchelors 8 from 4 against Poole and 10 from 5 against Coventry, wasn't a huge scoreline swinger.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 21:48:43 GMT
Fuming? From the man who doesn't take life too seriously? I'll overlook the comparison you made of me to genghis, who you left the forum to avoid, and kiss and make up. Fuming yes, because the selfish actions of the west ham pair could have serious effects on the speedway gambling market and that would affect me greatly. As for my departure from the forum for a while, Genghis the wise(sic) was merely the straw that broke the camels back so to speak and i am likely to take many more breaks in the future.......i need them for my sanity.. As for the kissing and making up business, any falling out was at your end only, there was never a problem at my end..i have no bad feeling towards anyone, but will challenge anything i see fit, i'll certainly never 'go along with the flow' for the sake of peace and harmony..
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 3:04:46 GMT
Fuming yes, because the selfish actions of the west ham pair could have serious effects on the speedway gambling market and that would affect me greatly. Might be at least one good thing coming from the scandal, back to the no gambling rule.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 8:40:37 GMT
Fuming yes, because the selfish actions of the west ham pair could have serious effects on the speedway gambling market and that would affect me greatly. Might be at least one good thing coming from the scandal, back to the no gambling rule. That might be your opinion and of course your fully entitled to it, but in reality without the new 'followers' that the betting market brings, speedway has very little future in this country. The sport in itself is just not popular enough.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 10:45:47 GMT
Fuming yes, because the selfish actions of the west ham pair could have serious effects on the speedway gambling market and that would affect me greatly. So what your saying is that the Lakeside promotion are at fault for all this by bringing it to the attention of the BSPA and not the people who may be at fault in the first place, IE Poole and Coventry?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 10:58:04 GMT
Fuming yes, because the selfish actions of the west ham pair could have serious effects on the speedway gambling market and that would affect me greatly. So what your saying is that the Lakeside promotion are at fault for all this by bringing it to the attention of the BSPA and not the people who may be at fault in the first place, IE Poole and Coventry? What i am saying MD is that if serious allegations can be proven then i would support their actions, but i dont see how they can so their actions do nothing except drag speedways name through the mud. It also comes across to me as a case of sour grapes, the hammers promoters have an absolutely massive catchment area in a region with a huge speedway history, and they appear incompetent at attracting new supporters. It is not in the best interests of the sport that the poorer, badly supported clubs should dictate to the bigger better supported teams, and thats where the problems stem from.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 11:04:21 GMT
The allegations has already been out in the open though and for a good few weeks, all the Lakeside management have done is to Ask for all this to be looked into and the speculation stopped.
I don't see how that is sour grapes?
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Post by Genghis on May 29, 2009 11:10:00 GMT
So what your saying is that the Lakeside promotion are at fault for all this by bringing it to the attention of the BSPA and not the people who may be at fault in the first place, IE Poole and Coventry? What i am saying MD is that if serious allegations can be proven then i would support their actions, but i dont see how they can so their actions do nothing except drag speedways name through the mud. It also comes across to me as a case of sour grapes, the hammers promoters have an absolutely massive catchment area in a region with a huge speedway history, and they appear incompetent at attracting new supporters. It is not in the best interests of the sport that the poorer, badly supported clubs should dictate to the bigger better supported teams, and thats where the problems stem from. Hatcham The Uninformed, I think, as usual, you've got the wrong end of the stick. The actions of the Lakeside promotion are not against any other particular team, but instead a call for a change in the way the speedway regulations are administered. Personally I don't want to see any particular team penalised, every team would do and have done the same in a similar position. But things do need cleaning up. And there needs to be an openness to any discussions, investigation and enquiry. It needs to be out in the open. After all the supporters are customers, and should be treated with the respect that should bring.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 11:20:48 GMT
The allegations has already been out in the open though and for a good few weeks, all the Lakeside management have done is to Ask for all this to be looked into and the speculation stopped. I don't see how that is sour grapes? Out in the open to us on the forums etc, but not in the press which it is now, with Cook and Douglas being listed as complainants, along with Trump, and it now would appear that Bratters fancies being in on the lynching. Why sour grapes ? because the hammers always strike me as a low budget, low supported team who want to compete for the title etc, and expect everyone to drop to their level to accommodate. The signing of Hans improves Poole and with the stupid league play-offs etc, it matters not a jot how you ride throughout the season, you just need to be in the top six with the strongest side at the end of the season to be victorious. If west ham brought in the support and sponsorship their location should, i feel the dialogue would be completely different from messrs Cook and Douglas.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 11:43:09 GMT
What i am saying MD is that if serious allegations can be proven then i would support their actions, but i dont see how they can so their actions do nothing except drag speedways name through the mud. It also comes across to me as a case of sour grapes, the hammers promoters have an absolutely massive catchment area in a region with a huge speedway history, and they appear incompetent at attracting new supporters. It is not in the best interests of the sport that the poorer, badly supported clubs should dictate to the bigger better supported teams, and thats where the problems stem from. Hatcham The Uninformed, I think, as usual, you've got the wrong end of the stick. The actions of the Lakeside promotion are not against any other particular team, but instead a call for a change in the way the speedway regulations are administered. Personally I don't want to see any particular team penalised, every team would do and have done the same in a similar position. But things do need cleaning up. And there needs to be an openness to any discussions, investigation and enquiry. It needs to be out in the open. After all the supporters are customers, and should be treated with the respect that should bring. The only part of west hams comments that the press are quoting and interested in, is the bit about Poole's possible cheating, and it was always obvious that this would be the case. As for supporters/customers being treated with respect, thats absolute bollocks, most supporters just want to win and it would appear at any cost, given the final say in a dodgy move to improve their side 95% would countenance the move, and if Trump and his Bees feel the spirit of fair play is that important, then why after their riders incompetance robbed Ippo of both their reserves on monday, did they not offer to withdraw Wells and Frampton to even things up.
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Post by Genghis on May 29, 2009 11:49:39 GMT
The only part of west hams comments that the press are quoting and interested in, is the bit about Poole's possible cheating, and it was always obvious that this would be the case. As for supporters/customers being treated with respect, thats absolute bollocks, most supporters just want to win and it would appear at any cost, given the final say in a dodgy move to improve their side 95% would countenance the move Hatcham The Unwashed, nope it's gone too far this time. The administration of the sport needs a good kick up the arse; my hope is that the result of any enquiry would be the formation of an indepent ruling body, something that is long overdue.
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