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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:31:44 GMT
Surely its not how much each club gets but how much good is been done by showing speedway on Sky.Its not so many years ago that the EL clubs wouldve killed for a chance of the kind of coverage they are getting now.As such Sky is the only way of getting speedway to a wider audience,we dont get much coverage in the national press or on any other media outlet so Id be grateful to Sky for their showing an interest in speedway. Screm, but if people are staying at home and watching the Sky coverage INSTEAD of going to meetings, then it is costing British Speedway valuable money. It clubs lose out on ยฃ20,000 from a Sky meeting, then this is what they should be paid for them, not a piss-taking ยฃ3,000. Then promoters should promote,isnt it better to have more people paying slightly less than asking people to pay the same money.Sky will become quickly sickend to see there name being sullied by little Hitler promoters sitting on their tractor at Arlington or wherever.Go to Sky and tell them of your demands and get their response. |
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Post by Genghis on Feb 15, 2009 17:32:56 GMT
The Gaffer is a shining example Kev, but there's been many more just like him, just with better hairstyles.  Actually I wasn't refering to Waggy, it was the muppet that took over from him that I was on about.  Kev, let's not get back to the Muppet comments.  Waggy & Aaron, although vastly different characters, both came unstuck for the same reason. They simply didn't have the required amount of cash to invest (waste) into speedway each and every season. Sadly, the British Elite League has become a rich man's plaything, for people who can afford to write off ยฃ100,000 or more each season. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:38:12 GMT
Go to Sky and tell them of your demands and get their response. Sky will pay whatever they can get away with up to whatever they consider value for their money, ยฃ4000 may be the sum total of what is received by the home and away clubs, but you can bet your fucking life its a lot less than Sky are paying. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:48:05 GMT
Waggy & Aaron, although vastly different characters, both came unstuck for the same reason. I disagree Genghis.......Waggy has a good speedway brain and put together some very entertaining teams. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 17:52:35 GMT
And what about the people who go to other speedway meetings because they watch it on sky .? And where exaclty are these people Orion? Well the group i go with to speedway what is between 10-20 people and nearly to a person they watch speedway on sky before trying a live match . No doubt there are countless around others who now go to speedway at there local track after they watched speedway on sky tv . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:04:09 GMT
And where exaclty are these people Orion? Well the group i go with to speedway what is between 10-20 people and nearly to a person they watch speedway on sky before trying a live match . No doubt there are countless around others who now go to speedway at there local track after they watched speedway on sky tv . And there are thousands out there who say, well I don't go to speedway anymore because I can watch a meeting at home every week And as for this quote: That has been taken out of context, and well you know it. It was said in response to all the fans who reckoned it was boring watching speedway from ippo on Sky, hence my response. |
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Post by Genghis on Feb 15, 2009 18:04:21 GMT
Waggy & Aaron, although vastly different characters, both came unstuck for the same reason. I disagree Genghis.......Waggy has a good speedway brain and put together some very entertaining teams. Kev, I wouldn't disagree with that, the 2003-2005 period proved to be one of my favourites at Oxford. But, in the end, Waggy couldn't afford to go on and he had to bankrupt Too Co Ltd, unfortunately leaving debts outstanding to the likes of Greg Hancock, Billy Hamill and Travis McGowan. Nobody could have tried harder to make Oxford Speedway a success. |
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Post by Genghis on Feb 15, 2009 18:04:45 GMT
Waggy & Aaron, although vastly different characters, both came unstuck for the same reason. I disagree Genghis.......Waggy has a good speedway brain and put together some very entertaining teams. Kev, I wouldn't disagree with that, the 2003-2005 period proved to be one of my favourites at Oxford. But, in the end, Waggy couldn't afford to go on and he had to bankrupt Too Co Ltd, unfortunately leaving debts outstanding to the likes of Greg Hancock, Billy Hamill and Travis McGowan. Nobody could have tried harder to make Oxford Speedway a success. |
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Post by Genghis on Feb 15, 2009 18:06:30 GMT
And where exaclty are these people Orion? Well the group i go with to speedway what is between 10-20 people and nearly to a person they watch speedway on sky before trying a live match . No doubt there are countless around others who now go to speedway at there local track after they watched speedway on sky tv . So where are the crowds of 5000 at each track? Attendances have slumped since Sky started thier coverage, not gone upwards. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:07:14 GMT
Nobody could have tried harder to make Oxford Speedway a success. I agree, and sadly recent history proves that nobody did try harder. |
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Post by Genghis on Feb 15, 2009 18:12:27 GMT
Nobody could have tried harder to make Oxford Speedway a success. I agree, and sadly recent history proves that nobody did try harder. Kev - I know he's not your favourite person, but Aaron Lanney tried very hard in 2006. But a combination of lack of experience, lack of co-operation from fellow promoters (in particular, JP down the road at Smallmead) and lack of money left him struggling to establish himself. And when he turned to someone for help, he unfortunately choose Lord Flapperjack, and that killed Oxford Speedway.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:13:55 GMT
Well the group i go with to speedway what is between 10-20 people and nearly to a person they watch speedway on sky before trying a live match . No doubt there are countless around others who now go to speedway at there local track after they watched speedway on sky tv . So where are the crowds of 5000 at each track? Attendances have slumped since Sky started thier coverage, not gone upwards. Surely televised speedway(or sport in general) is not supposed to increase live attendances but to bring them to a larger audience, for which the clubs concerned should be duly compensated to a greater financial degree, if this is not the case with speedway then we need to know why. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:17:30 GMT
Nobody could have tried harder to make Oxford Speedway a success. I agree, and sadly recent history proves that nobody did try harder. Do you not think though Kev that with 10/11 GP's a season, the ELRC is a case of going to the well once too often. |
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Post by Genghis on Feb 15, 2009 18:19:46 GMT
So where are the crowds of 5000 at each track? Attendances have slumped since Sky started thier coverage, not gone upwards. Surely televised speedway(or sport in general) is not supposed to increase live attendances but to bring them to a larger audience, for which the clubs concerned should be duly compensated to a greater financial degree, if this is not the case with speedway then we need to know why. Hatcham - but other sports completely rely on the huge sums they receive from Sky and other TV companies. The problem with Speedway is that it has been poorly paid for this coverage, despite it bringing in very, very respectable figures. The knock-on effect is that the product is now suffering. If Sky complain that the standard of the Elite League is dropping, then they only have themselves to blame. The saviour for Elite League Speedway could be that Sky now has a serious rival in Sentana, who will see the viewing figures and want speedwat for themselves and put in a bid that is worthy of those viewing figures. But it's a question of whether Elite League survives for long enough until the current Sky contract expires. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 18:20:02 GMT
I agree, and sadly recent history proves that nobody did try harder. Do you not think though Kev that with 10/11 GP's a season, the ELRC is a case of going to the well once too often. Shouldn't be a problem this year though should it, only Leigh Bomber and Kenneth who have GP's to worry about, technically the others shoudl embrace the chance of another meeting  Ooops editted to include Freddie in there  |
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