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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 20:05:13 GMT
Judging by Sunday's meeting at Sheffield, where Woffinden & Barker outstripped Nicholls, I would say it's time to place faith in the youngsters. I think the team should be: 1. Chris Harris 2. Tai Woffinden 3. Edward Kennett 4. Lewis Bridger 5. Ben Barker Nicholls has had his day - now it's the turn of the young guns. Ridiculous.
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Post by schumi on Mar 31, 2009 20:09:03 GMT
Genghis, read my post - one rider is already confirmed, and that's Nicholls.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 31, 2009 21:02:34 GMT
Judging by Sunday's meeting at Sheffield, where Woffinden & Barker outstripped Nicholls, I would say it's time to place faith in the youngsters. I think the team should be: 1. Chris Harris 2. Tai Woffinden 3. Edward Kennett 4. Lewis Bridger 5. Ben Barker Nicholls has had his day - now it's the turn of the young guns. Ridiculous. Hatcham - Why? The Danes took the same route a few years ago and look where they are now.
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Post by Genghis on Mar 31, 2009 21:09:45 GMT
Genghis, read my post - one rider is already confirmed, and that's Nicholls. Schumi - I have read your post. Nicholls has a guaranteed place in the squad. I'm talking about the final five.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 21:33:13 GMT
Hatcham - Why? The Danes took the same route a few years ago and look where they are now. I was lucky enough to be at Sheffield on Sunday and would, in the main, agree with Genghis...........although I have my doubts about Harris and may be tempted to replace him!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 8:02:20 GMT
Hatcham - Why? The Danes took the same route a few years ago and look where they are now. So i presume your suggestion the the Poles and Aussies would be to give Gollob, Crump and Adams the boot ? Your hatred of Britains undisputed number 1 has sunk to new depths, and in a week where i am struggling to find a flapperjack to crown, you are right up there with every chance thanks to that comment.
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Post by schumi on Apr 1, 2009 10:18:44 GMT
Why? The Danes took the same route a few years ago and look where they are now. But the Danes are fortunate enough to have had some of the world's best riders, probably due to the way things are done over there. I can't see how throwing five youngsters in at the deep end for a couple of meetings in July is going to benefit British speedway in the long run. We need a mixture of youth and experience, and Nicholls would be the first name on my list, closely followed by Bridger, Richardson and Kennett. The other one is up for grabs and could go to any one of Screen, Barker or Woffinden, in my opinion. Edit: and the Danes weren't that young, anyway. Bjarne's certainly been around for a few years, and Nicki is about the same age as him. Both of them were GP riders when you say they "took the same route" of opting for youngsters, and not just trailing around at the back, either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 10:26:09 GMT
Why? The Danes took the same route a few years ago and look where they are now. But the Danes are fortunate enough to have had some of the world's best riders, probably due to the way things are done over there. I can't see how throwing five youngsters in at the deep end for a couple of meetings in July is going to benefit British speedway in the long run. We need a mixture of youth and experience, and Nicholls would be the first name on my list, closely followed by Bridger, Richardson and Kennett. The other one is up for grabs and could go to any one of Screen, Barker or Woffinden, in my opinion. Under Genghis's watch Schumi it wouldn't be a couple of meetings in July, it would be just the one. Personally i would have, Nicholls, Harris and Richardson and would be waiting to see what happens over the next few months before deciding between, Bridger, Kennett, Screen and Woffinden for the other two places.
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Post by Genghis on Apr 1, 2009 11:04:16 GMT
But the Danes are fortunate enough to have had some of the world's best riders, probably due to the way things are done over there. I can't see how throwing five youngsters in at the deep end for a couple of meetings in July is going to benefit British speedway in the long run. We need a mixture of youth and experience, and Nicholls would be the first name on my list, closely followed by Bridger, Richardson and Kennett. The other one is up for grabs and could go to any one of Screen, Barker or Woffinden, in my opinion. Under Genghis's watch Schumi it wouldn't be a couple of meetings in July, it would be just the one. Personally i would have, Nicholls, Harris and Richardson and would be waiting to see what happens over the next few months before deciding between, Bridger, Kennett, Screen and Woffinden for the other two places. Well, you simply want to pick the riders on how good they were rather than the here and now. At the moment, both Tai Woffinden abd Ben Barker are showing better form than Scott Nicholls. Nicholls still has to earn a place, he can't be handed it simply because he's won the British Final last season. We've now in THIS season. And I'd have Danny King in for Peterborough - I'd bring in Ben Barker for Leszno (he showed on Sunday that's he pretty good around a big track - certainly better than Nicholls around those sort of tracks).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 11:16:45 GMT
Under Genghis's watch Schumi it wouldn't be a couple of meetings in July, it would be just the one. Personally i would have, Nicholls, Harris and Richardson and would be waiting to see what happens over the next few months before deciding between, Bridger, Kennett, Screen and Woffinden for the other two places. Well, you simply want to pick the riders on how good they were rather than the here and now. At the moment, both Tai Woffinden abd Ben Barker are showing better form than Scott Nicholls. What utter rubbish, the season has barely started and your basing Barker being better than Nicholls on what ? Barker beating him in a one off race in a meaningless meeting ? Genghis old chap your beginning to make old Shovvy down in Dorset look fair, and unbiased in his views. So Nicholls didn't turn up at the ELRC, get over it for fucks sake.
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Post by Genghis on Apr 1, 2009 11:25:01 GMT
Hatcham - so you think Nicholls should be handed a place rather than earning it? He was appalling at Sheffield on Sunday. As for it being a "meaningless meeting", tell that to the likes of Adams, Crump, Woffinden & Barker, who were all out there racing and proving an early season point.
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Post by Genghis on Apr 1, 2009 11:30:46 GMT
Edit: and the Danes weren't that young, anyway. Bjarne's certainly been around for a few years, and Nicki is about the same age as him. Both of them were GP riders when you say they "took the same route" of opting for youngsters, and not just trailing around at the back, either. But at the same time, the likes of Brian Andersen and Jesper B Jensen were left out of the team and emerging talent such as Kenneth Bjerre and Hans Andersen included instead. A similar policy by Great Britain, with Nicholls & Richardson rested, and the likes of Woffinden & Barker given international experience, could pay big dividends in future seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 11:42:23 GMT
Edit: and the Danes weren't that young, anyway. Bjarne's certainly been around for a few years, and Nicki is about the same age as him. Both of them were GP riders when you say they "took the same route" of opting for youngsters, and not just trailing around at the back, either. But at the same time, the likes of Brian Andersen and Jesper B Jensen were left out of the team and emerging talent such as Kenneth Bjerre and Hans Andersen included instead. A similar policy by Great Britain, with Nicholls & Richardson rested, and the likes of Woffinden & Barker given international experience, could pay big dividends in future seasons. This is speedway Genghis, not football or cricket, there is no great advantage to be gained by getting slaughtered in the world cup.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2009 11:45:34 GMT
Hatcham - so you think Nicholls should be handed a place rather than earning it? He was appalling at Sheffield on Sunday. As for it being a "meaningless meeting", tell that to the likes of Adams, Crump, Woffinden & Barker, who were all out there racing and proving an early season point. He should keep his place until such time as five riders are found that are better. If your basing Barker being better than Nicholls on one meeting, why have you not mentioned David Howe, who outscored Barker at Birmingham and Newport
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Post by Genghis on Apr 1, 2009 11:46:24 GMT
But at the same time, the likes of Brian Andersen and Jesper B Jensen were left out of the team and emerging talent such as Kenneth Bjerre and Hans Andersen included instead. A similar policy by Great Britain, with Nicholls & Richardson rested, and the likes of Woffinden & Barker given international experience, could pay big dividends in future seasons. This is speedway Genghis, not football or cricket, there is no great advantage to be gained by getting slaughtered in the world cup. We're going to finish third at Peterborough, then get hammered at Leszno whatever team we put out. So we might as well track our "future maybes" rather than our "never-will-bes". Experience is a huge part of success in speedway, so it would help us to give Woffinden & Barker that experience sooner rather than later. They will wear the Great Britain kevlars with pride, rather than the indifference we saw from old boys Nicholls & Richardson last season.
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