Questions

[Deleted]

Jan 5, 2009 23:37:49 GMT @frigbo said:

Scunny is wrong. They lost all 18 away matches and should have 20 points

You're dead right, just had a look through the results and confirmed that. But now my table has an inaccuracy because it records 56 home defeats and 55 away wins, where have I gone wrong now?

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh.........I blame Schumi for starting this.


Birmingham 35 17 1 0 9 2 6 1628 1096 - - - 55
Eastbourne 36 17 0 1 7 3 8 1636.5 1166.5 - - - 51
Boston 36 18 0 0 5 2 11 1508.5 1294.5 - - - 48
Workington 36 17 1 0 5 2 11 1482 1324 - - - 47
Crewe 36 17 0 1 5 0 13 1535.5 1266.5 - - - 44
Teesside 36 15 1 2 4 0 14 1448 1356 - - - 39
Bradford 36 17 0 1 2 1 15 1339 1463 - - - 39
Peterborough 34 14 0 2 4 1 13 1319 1329 - - - 37
Coatbridge 36 17 0 1 1 0 17 1438 1335 - - - 36
Canterbury 36 14 0 4 4 0 14 1402 1372 - - - 36
Barrow 36 12 2 4 3 0 15 1402.5 1396.5 - - - 34
Berwick 36 14 1 3 2 0 16 1284 1519 - - - 33
Stoke 36 15 0 3 1 0 17 1389 1418 - - - 32
Ellesmere Port 35 13 2 3 1 1 15 1331 1394 - - - 31
Long Eaton 36 14 2 2 0 0 18 1302 1502 - - - 30
Rye House 36 12 0 6 1 0 17 1229 1566 - - - 26
Sunderland 36 10 0 8 1 0 17 1231 1570 - - - 22
Scunthorpe 36 9 2 7 0 0 18 1333 1467 - - - 20
Weymouth 36 10 0 8 0 0 18 1198 1601 - - - 20

680 272 12 56 55 12 273 26436 26436 680

[Genghis]

Jan 6, 2009 0:00:25 GMT @kevh said:

Jan 5, 2009 23:37:49 GMT @frigbo said:

Scunny is wrong. They lost all 18 away matches and should have 20 points

You're dead right, just had a look through the results and confirmed that. But now my table has an inaccuracy because it records 56 home defeats and 55 away wins, where have I gone wrong now?

Aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh.........I blame Schumi for starting this.


Birmingham 35 17 1 0 9 2 6 1628 1096 - - - 55
Eastbourne 36 17 0 1 7 3 8 1636.5 1166.5 - - - 51
Boston 36 18 0 0 5 2 11 1508.5 1294.5 - - - 48
Workington 36 17 1 0 5 2 11 1482 1324 - - - 47
Crewe 36 17 0 1 5 0 13 1535.5 1266.5 - - - 44
Teesside 36 15 1 2 4 0 14 1448 1356 - - - 39
Bradford 36 17 0 1 2 1 15 1339 1463 - - - 39
Peterborough 34 14 0 2 4 1 13 1319 1329 - - - 37
Coatbridge 36 17 0 1 1 0 17 1438 1335 - - - 36
Canterbury 36 14 0 4 4 0 14 1402 1372 - - - 36
Barrow 36 12 2 4 3 0 15 1402.5 1396.5 - - - 34
Berwick 36 14 1 3 2 0 16 1284 1519 - - - 33
Stoke 36 15 0 3 1 0 17 1389 1418 - - - 32
Ellesmere Port 35 13 2 3 1 1 15 1331 1394 - - - 31
Long Eaton 36 14 2 2 0 0 18 1302 1502 - - - 30
Rye House 36 12 0 6 1 0 17 1229 1566 - - - 26
Sunderland 36 10 0 8 1 0 17 1231 1570 - - - 22
Scunthorpe 36 9 2 7 0 0 18 1333 1467 - - - 20
Weymouth 36 10 0 8 0 0 18 1198 1601 - - - 20

680 272 12 56 55 12 273 26436 26436 680

Kev, there's still something wrong with the Barrow stats in the above table.

[schumi]

Yes, it looks like you haven't changed the wins. I don't have separate totals for home and away, but isn't this what Ooogen said before?

11..Barrow..36..16..2..18..34

Would that make it right?

[Deleted]

That's the one, thanks!!!

Thank gawd that's been put to bed.

[schumi]

I have a conflict of results. Was Bernt Persson in the 1976 World Final or not?

[Deleted]

Nope

[schumi]

The conflict comes from your book - it says no, but Ooogers has that year listed in his honours. I need someone else to verify either way if they can. Preferably not from Wikipedia.

[Deleted]

Jan 10, 2009 22:26:03 GMT @schumi said:

The conflict comes from your book - it says no, but Ooogers has that year listed in his honours. I need someone else to verify either way if they can. Preferably not from Wikipedia.

If it helps, Speed-Away Promotions' 'The Speedway Years - 1976' supports the theory that Persson didn't ride in the Final that year.

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Jan 10, 2009 22:34:22 GMT @kevh said:

Jan 10, 2009 22:26:03 GMT @schumi said:

The conflict comes from your book - it says no, but Ooogers has that year listed in his honours. I need someone else to verify either way if they can. Preferably not from Wikipedia.

If it helps, Speed-Away Promotions' 'The Speedway Years - 1976' supports the theory that Persson didn't ride in the Final that year.

And the 1977 Speedway Yearbook has no record of Persson riding in the Final. It reports that Bernie Persson scored just three points at the Inter-Continental Final at Wembley on 26/6/76 and was eliminated.

[Deleted]

Oops...cock up!

[schumi]

It's nice to know you are human after all. Anyway, doesn't it say something that I questioned the book rather than you?

[schumi]

Help! 2003 Slovenian GP. Ooogers has Ronni Pedersen riding in it, Wikipedia has him scoring a point from it in their final standings (although they have the date wrong ::

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_Speedway_Grand_Prix

But the official site doesn't have him listed:

www.speedwayworld.tv/en/sgpresult/m32

And nor do we:

1..T Rickardsson..(SWE)..2,3,1,3,1 = 13
2..J Crump..(AUS)..3,2,2,0 = 11
3..R Sullivan..(AUS)..3,3,1,2,1 = 8
4..L Adams..(AUS)..3,3,0,2,2,3 = 25
5..M Max..(SWE)..1,3,0 = 3
6..G Hancock..(USA)..1,2,3,0 = 11
7..T Gollob..(POL)..2,3,2,3,0 = 16
8..M Loram..(GBR)..2,1,3,1,3,0 = 7
33..[R]..S Tihanyi..(HUN)..0,1 = 2
10..L Dryml..(CZR)..3,2,0,W = 5
11..R Holta..(NOR)..0,0,2,1 = 8
12..N Pedersen..(DEN)..0,2,0,2,2,2 = 20
13..S Nicholls..(GBR)..1,2,1,3,3,1 = 18
14..A Jonsson..(SWE)..3,2,1,3,0 = 7
15..T Wiltshire..(AUS)..0,0 = 1
30..[R]..D Howe..(GBR)..2,0,2,1,1 = 6
26..[R]..P Karlsson..(SWE)..0,2,3,0,1 = 6
29..[R]..R Povazhny..(RUS)..2,1,1 = 4
19..P Protasiewicz..(POL)..1,1 = 2
32..[R]..D Stojs..(SLO)..1,0 = 1
21..T Bajerski..(POL)..0,3,2,3,3,1 = 13
22..J Lyons..(AUS)..2,0,0 = 3
23..[W]..M Zagar..(SLO)..3,3,0,0 = 5
24..[W]..I Santej..(SLO)..1,2,1 = 4

[admin]

This one doesn't have him in Krsko either:

www.przegladzuzlowy.pl/gp_2003.php

[Deleted]

No, Ronni didn't ride in Krsko that year, although he did get outings at Avesta, Cardiff, Copenhagen, Gothenburg, Bydgoszcz and Hamar scoring a very reasonable 23 points.

Your figures are correct for all the riders, Schumi.

[schumi]

Cardiff - thanks. That's the missing entry.