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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2008 21:48:17 GMT
The BSI/FIM press release states it was the adverse weather conditions, wet shale and the cold temperatures in the stadium(I kid you not) that led to the problems with the track. Strangely, there is nothing in the release that states that the flapperjack reponsible will be strung up by the gonads and beaten with steel shoes until he pisses off back to Denmark and leaves the SGP series well alone.
This feels like the straw that broke the camels back - first of all the tracks are either super slick, bald as a badger's arse or the complete shithole he turned Gotheburg into. And now this. The track preparation is the responsibilty the the Race Director. And he fucked up big time. He has to go - now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 8:38:30 GMT
Oh God, wait until BigFatDave and Trackman see that. I can see their howls of derision at the likes of you daring to criticise Ole Olsen after all he's done for speedway over the years. You really are a Fucking Wanker, whoever you are today Schoobedei. Your pathetic attempt to drag me and my fellow Aussie Trackie into this just shows what a complete and utter waste of space you are. Why don't you crawl back under your rock and bully woodlice? For Complete and Utter Flapperjack (Spelt Cee yUo eN Tee) of the Decade I'd like to nominate you, you sorry excuse for a Human Being. You Suck. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2008 9:27:22 GMT
Looks like being a close-run thing between Ole Olsen, Subedei and Genghis this week.
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Post by nobbyclark on Oct 12, 2008 11:10:40 GMT
Simple really ML. It's an indoor stadium and the track is too wet. It's not rocket science to keep the bloody roof shut is it? Whether that is the fault of the lowliest labourer or the guy in charge is immaterial. The buck has to stop somewhere and the Race Director seems appropriate to me. Indeed SL.. Olsen is a fuck wit!! |
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Post by admin on Oct 12, 2008 12:26:19 GMT
For Complete and Utter Flapperjack (Spelt Cee yUo eN Tee) of the Decade I'd like to nominate you, you sorry excuse for a Human Being. You Suck. Still, it could be worse, I could be you. But, come on you big-mouthed, cowardly, ignorant sandman wanabee, everytime someone dares to say anything about the saintly Bryn you jump up and down and tell the world of all he's done for the sport, well, hasn't Olsen done more for the sport than a nonentity like Bryn. Perhaps if Olsen downs a couple of bundys next year he get the same devotion that you give to Bryn. But I suspect that Olsen is more choosy about whom he drinks with. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 11:39:58 GMT
Well got back last night, from a very sunny Germany  . Rumours were circulating rapidly Saturday morning, with texts coming from mechanics etc. We first heard that the shale was too wet as last season's shale was used, and the organisers would not pay out for a £2000 cover for the pile. Next we hear that it got wet on the barge coming from Denmark, and was laid wet with 25% moisture in it, instead of the 5% which is acceptable, and no-one thought to open the roof to allow the natural drying process to take place, and by keeping the roof closed it created more moisture and no drying  . What is bizarre is that the bloody GP could have been called off on Thursday, thereby stopping us from travelling, as I understand not much was done to actually get this on. Actually most of us thought it was a joke, as how can you cancel an indoor meeting due to adverse weather conditions, that actually happened the week before |
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Post by admin on Oct 13, 2008 12:26:54 GMT
I have to say that a moisture content of 25% seems implausibly high, even 5% seems high for a crushed rock aggregate, even taking into account the absorption figure.
Did the barge sink on it's way to Gelsenkirchen?
The material used at Gelsenkirchen is the material used at Copenhagen - the exact same material. It is owned, presumably, by BSI Speedway and stored between events. The material used at Cardiff is supplied, as I understand it, in return for commercial exposure and then returned to the supplier to be sold on after the event. I guess it'll be the same for Gothenburg. This means that the main material at Cardiff can't have a "bonding material" added to it in order to create a decent surface.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 12:36:54 GMT
I have to say that a moisture content of 25% seems implausibly high I'm no expert in material science, but wouldn't a moisture content of 25% imply the material was somewhat liquified? |
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Post by Genghis on Oct 13, 2008 12:45:23 GMT
I have to say that a moisture content of 25% seems implausibly high I'm no expert in material science, but wouldn't a moisture content of 25% imply the material was somewhat liquified? Wibbs - are you going to pick a winner? You are a couple of days overdue.  |
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Post by admin on Oct 13, 2008 12:59:09 GMT
I have to say that a moisture content of 25% seems implausibly high I'm no expert in material science, but wouldn't a moisture content of 25% imply the material was somewhat liquified? Look at it this way, if you purchased 20 tonnes of this material and it was at 25% moisture, 5 tonnes of it would be water. We purchase our concrete sand at an assumed moisture content of 7% and crushed rock aggregate at an assumed moisture content of 0%. I've never come across a material, even 0-4mm crushed rock fine aggregate (which is probably the main material that goes into a speedway track and is generally delivered drier than sand), at anywhere near 25%. It would just be slurry. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 13:01:32 GMT
Wibbs - are you going to pick a winner? You are a couple of days overdue. Ah yes. I was away over the weekend, so apologies for that. I think it was a tough choice up until the weekend, as there were a number of worthy nominees for the award. Given the events of this Saturday though, there can only be one winner. Nevertheless, I don't think the uber-golem can take all the credit this time, and his masters must share culpability for the fiasco in Gelsenkirchen. I therefore pick IMG/BSI and Ole Olsen as joint winners of Flapperjack of the Week! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2008 22:00:23 GMT
The shale purchased for a speedway track HAS to have some moisture content as otherwise it won't bind into the solid mass required tom prevent it simply digging up into ruts as soon as a wheel is turned on it. The correct moisture level is, as Badge posted earlier, 5% - we heard from a number of different sources that the content was actualy 20 - 25%, photos put online by Conkers from the BSF seem to suggest that, as has been said above, the surface was indeed "somewhat liquid"! One of the dickheads on the new Ipswich forum (new forum but still the same irritating patronising posts) is trying to lay all the blame at the stadiums door - but the stories we heard from people who were actually at the stadium rather than escorting speedway fans around the continent and making Hans Andersen fans feel uncomfortable seemed to suggest otherwise. Of course, far be it from me to suggest that riders and their mechanics know more about track prep than a self important tour company rep. |
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