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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 11:03:35 GMT
Precisely Schumster, so if one is unable or unwilling to look beyond the 'end of one's nose, one may well end up eating some of the vile stuff.
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Post by Genghis on Dec 11, 2009 12:13:32 GMT
I know.....I can't b****y believe it ! Grrrrrr !!!. Couldn't they see how fantastic it was last year at Peterborough !! ?? I don't get it ! Why hold it at poxy Kings Lynn....? Grrrrr........... Basically Mrs Zonkster you're absolutely correct. Elite league speedway is on the floor, the main reason for that is the lack of Elite league teams. So what do the official organizers do ? they actively encourage and reward teams to stay in the second division ! I cannot believe how short sighted those who control are. All top class events should be held at Elite league tracks. The Team England manager should be selected from the Elite league clubs. Sky TV should only show Elite league speedway. Joe Screen and other Elite level riders should not be allowed to drop into the lower reaches. Snob. Given the unavailability of the Showground on this date, surely the Norfolk Arena is the second best choice. Good track, vastly improved stadium. Plus with plenty of dirt on the track, it should suit our British boys as they kick a bit of Aussie / Swedish arse on their way to the final.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 12:18:10 GMT
Basically Mrs Zonkster you're absolutely correct. Elite league speedway is on the floor, the main reason for that is the lack of Elite league teams. So what do the official organizers do ? they actively encourage and reward teams to stay in the second division ! I cannot believe how short sighted those who control are. All top class events should be held at Elite league tracks. The Team England manager should be selected from the Elite league clubs. Sky TV should only show Elite league speedway. Joe Screen and other Elite level riders should not be allowed to drop into the lower reaches. Snob. Given the unavailability of the Showground on this date, surely the Norfolk Arena is the second best choice. Good track, vastly improved stadium. Plus with plenty of dirt on the track, it should suit our British boys as they kick a bit of Aussie / Swedish arse on their way to the final. There are Eight other Elite teams Genghis, i'd rather see it take place at new custom house than some second division backwater, and of course All second division teams are from backwaters, otherwise they would be in the Elite.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 12:23:46 GMT
Basically Mrs Zonkster you're absolutely correct. Elite league speedway is on the floor, the main reason for that is the lack of Elite league teams. So what do the official organizers do ? they actively encourage and reward teams to stay in the second division ! I cannot believe how short sighted those who control are. All top class events should be held at Elite league tracks. The Team England manager should be selected from the Elite league clubs. Sky TV should only show Elite league speedway. Joe Screen and other Elite level riders should not be allowed to drop into the lower reaches. it should suit our British boys I wonder who precisely "our British boys" will be ! Do the Silver Machine have a British boy ? As i dare say the clown Lyon would select him on the basis of 'track knowledge.
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Post by Genghis on Dec 11, 2009 12:27:02 GMT
Snob. Given the unavailability of the Showground on this date, surely the Norfolk Arena is the second best choice. Good track, vastly improved stadium. Plus with plenty of dirt on the track, it should suit our British boys as they kick a bit of Aussie / Swedish arse on their way to the final. There are Eight other Elite teams Genghis, i'd rather see it take place at new custom house than some second division backwater, and of course All second division teams are from backwaters, otherwise they would be in the Elite. Hatcham, are you John Perrin in disguise There's nowt wrong with the PL/NL - meetings in these leagues often surpeass the EL in terms of entertainment. Why should every big event take place at an EL venue?
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Post by Genghis on Dec 11, 2009 12:28:07 GMT
it should suit our British boys I wonder who precisely "our British boys" will be ! Do the Silver Machine have a British boy ? As i dare say the clown Lyon would select him on the basis of 'track knowledge. Rob Lyon did a great job in 2009 (I was proud of our battling performance in the Race-Off ) and no doubt he will do the same in 2010. ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 12:35:39 GMT
There are Eight other Elite teams Genghis, i'd rather see it take place at new custom house than some second division backwater, and of course All second division teams are from backwaters, otherwise they would be in the Elite. Hatcham, are you John Perrin in disguise There's nowt wrong with the PL/NL - meetings in these leagues often surpeass the EL in terms of entertainment. Why should every big event take place at an EL venue? Because if you have the track, the facilities, the support and the desire to host big meetings you should compete in THE ELITE, teams like KL are just selfish, they want the lower costs of being a second rate club, then expect(and bizarrely get) all the trappings of being a major player. How can you not see what a slap in the face this is for Elite clubs ? if i was an Elite promoter/manager i would be fuming, what encouragement is there for them to continue in the higher league.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 12:38:49 GMT
I wonder who precisely "our British boys" will be ! Do the Silver Machine have a British boy ? As i dare say the clown Lyon would select him on the basis of 'track knowledge. Rob Lyon did a great job in 2009 (I was proud of our battling performance in the Race-Off ) and no doubt he will do the same in 2010. ;D ;D He did the worst job EVER in team management, he managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory(Ish)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2009 14:42:41 GMT
Two reasons I reckon, 1... the excellent track at Peterboro was down to Buster and 2... this is a home meeting for Team Australia surely
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Post by zonkers on Dec 12, 2009 10:41:45 GMT
All top class events should be held at Elite league tracks. I agree! Sky TV should only show Elite league speedway. I don't agree !
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Post by zonkers on Dec 12, 2009 10:44:41 GMT
There are Eight other Elite teams Genghis, i'd rather see it take place at new custom house than some second division backwater, and of course All second division teams are from backwaters, otherwise they would be in the Elite. Well said ! Because if you have the track, the facilities, the support and the desire to host big meetings you should compete in THE ELITE, teams like KL are just selfish, they want the lower costs of being a second rate club, then expect(and bizarrely get) all the trappings of being a major player. Totally agree ! It wouldn't happen in any other sport, would it? Imagine one of the major football events being held at a lower division venue, instead of the Premier Division ! All crammed into a tin-pot grandstand. It just wouldn't happen. So why do they think it's ok for speedway....? Same old story as usual.....
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Post by Genghis on Dec 12, 2009 11:09:20 GMT
Zonkers, Scottish Football holds its big events at Hampden Park, a lower league venue. I'm sure that the World Cup would have been back at Peterborough, had the Showground been available that week. It's not, so what's wrong with staging the meeting at the Norfolk Arena?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 11:14:45 GMT
There are Eight other Elite teams Genghis, i'd rather see it take place at new custom house than some second division backwater, and of course All second division teams are from backwaters, otherwise they would be in the Elite. Well said ! Because if you have the track, the facilities, the support and the desire to host big meetings you should compete in THE ELITE, teams like KL are just selfish, they want the lower costs of being a second rate club, then expect(and bizarrely get) all the trappings of being a major player. Totally agree ! It wouldn't happen in any other sport, would it? Imagine one of the major football events being held at a lower division venue, instead of the Premier Division ! All crammed into a tin-pot grandstand. It just wouldn't happen. So why do they think it's ok for speedway....? Same old story as usual..... The one aspect of speedway and the running of speedway that almost all supporters would agree over, is the need for the sport to be run by an independent body. Of course the very small minority that disagree, are the very small minority that currently call the shots. The most annoying aspect of the K.Lynn World cup fixture, is the arrogance, ignorance and down right selfish attitude of so many KL fans, who take a very depressing "i'm all right jack " attitude and label all dissenters as "Elite league snobs". Well i am not an Elite league snob or supporter, i have absolutely no love or loyalty to any current team, i just see a totally wrong and unfair decision being made. Speedway is run a bit like a franchise, and in a franchise those who invest the most would expect to benefit the most. It's Very very simple.
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Post by zonkers on Dec 12, 2009 11:21:17 GMT
I'm sure that the World Cup would have been back at Peterborough, had the Showground been available that week. It's not, so what's wrong with staging the meeting at the Norfolk Arena? I didn't know about the showgound not being available - how did you know that? But even so.....there are many many better venues than KL in my opinion. Even Coventry would have been better - much more space and a more central location. Bigger car parking areas etc. I guess Lynn have negotiated with farmers for the use of their fields for parking? How are they going to manage the pits area? Any more than 30 people round the pits there and no-one can walk by !! (ok, well maybe that's a bit of an exaggeration! Lol ! ;D). but, as someone righly put it on the Panthers forum ... Disappointing not be at a bigger venue. Good luck to KL but judging by the showground crowd this year Lynn ain't the place, in my opinion. They should have just gone the whole hog and staged it at Wolves.....then they could have crammed everyone in all on on side!
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Post by zonkers on Dec 12, 2009 11:23:30 GMT
Zonkers, Scottish Football holds its big events at Hampden Park, a lower league venue. Well....that's the Scots for you.....
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