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Post by schumi on Jun 19, 2009 4:48:49 GMT
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Post by Genghis on Jun 19, 2009 11:19:57 GMT
Blimey, they've actucally gone and done it. Thank goodness FIA didn't want Silverstone as a venue in 2010 - it can be be used as the showpiece event of the new series. I would imagine Bernie will be taking out a contract on Max Mosley. ;D
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Post by schumi on Jun 19, 2009 11:31:39 GMT
Well with Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW Sauber, Toyota, Brawn GP, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso all in agreement to start a new series, I know which one I'll be watching.
That leaves only five teams in F1 - it could have been six, but Lola were refused admission (long standing feud with Mosley), and have now withdrawn their application.
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Post by Genghis on Jun 19, 2009 11:39:38 GMT
Well with Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, BMW Sauber, Toyota, Brawn GP, Red Bull Racing and Toro Rosso all in agreement to start a new series, I know which one I'll be watching. That leaves only five teams in F1 - it could have been six, but Lola were refused admission (long standing feud with Mosley), and have now withdrawn their application. Hopefully the BBC will be able to wiggle their way out of covering F1 and show the new series instead. There's some great circuits out there ready to be used - Silverstone, Brands Hatch, Montreal and Imola for startes. Hopefully we'll get a race in the US as well. It could be a breath of fresh air.
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Post by schumi on Jun 19, 2009 15:16:37 GMT
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Post by Genghis on Jun 19, 2009 17:28:46 GMT
Once the way Mosley and Ecclestone have acted becomes public, the case will be thrown straight out.
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Post by schumi on Jun 20, 2009 11:28:54 GMT
Hopefully the BBC will be able to wiggle their way out of covering F1 and show the new series instead. www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5390078,00.html The BBC are reportedly looking for a way out of their Formula One contract in the wake of FOTA's announcement that they will be starting their own series.
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Post by schumi on Jun 22, 2009 7:54:35 GMT
From Planet F1:
The FOTA teams threatening a breakaway from F1 have reportedly suggested that the removal of Max Mosley as FIA president would herald the sport's much-needed reconciliation.
A plot to remove Mosley will reputedly be led by Ferrari this week at a meeting of the FIA's world council.
According to The Guardian, 'the removal of Mosley from the presidency of the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) would open the way for negotiations with Bernie Ecclestone, the holder of the sport's commercial rights.'
With the teams publicly insisting that they are pressing ahead with their plans to form a new series, the newspaper reports that behind-the-scenes machinations are already being plotted to oust the Englishman from his position.
'On Wednesday of this week, at a meeting in Paris of the FIA's world motor sport council, Luca di Montezemolo, the president of Ferrari and chairman of the breakaway group, will begin a process aimed at securing the 69-year-old Englishman's departure from a post he has held since 1991, dissuading him from standing for re-election for a sixth term in November in order to prevent the damage likely to be caused to both sides by a split.'
While the dispute between the teams and the governing body is ostensibly over plans to introduce a budget cap next season, the Guardian reports that, 'according to a senior FOTA source, the teams' overriding priority is to rid themselves of Mosley's autocratic style of governance. Widely resented, it finally became intolerable to the bulk of participants in Formula One when he attempted to impose a swath of radical rule changes, in particular a £40m budget cap to take effect next season.'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2009 10:39:20 GMT
I think Mosley is not endearing himself to the teams with some of his remarks, quite aside from his unilateral imposition of rule changes.
I realise the FIA isn't just F1, and in international sports bodies, it's usually easy enough to buy off a few national delegates (as Ecclestone alluded to at the weekend). However, one really does wonder whether the son of a fascist can hang on for much longer.
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Post by Genghis on Jun 22, 2009 11:00:15 GMT
Looks like the "loonies" have had enough of Mad Max.
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Post by schumi on Jun 22, 2009 16:23:24 GMT
Mosley backtracks on legal threat and 'looney' claim.
Max Mosley has withdrawn his threat to issue a writ against the eight FOTA teams threatening a breakaway from F1 and toned down his reference to a 'looney' faction amongst them.
Making an unscheduled appearance in the Silverstone paddock on Sunday, Mosley defied the doom-mongers by insisting that a peace deal was close to being brokered just forty-eight hours after the FIA had pledged to pursue full legal recourse against the rebel teams.
"There won't be any writ," he said. "I think we would rather talk than litigate. We are talking to people all the time. We are very, very close as far as the facts are concerned. It's just if the teams want to sit down and iron out the last few difficulties."
Speaking to The Guardian, a FOTA source dismissed Mosley's claim as "absolute rubbish" and a host of team principals lined up on Sunday to insist that, far from being very close to a resolution, the teams were instead pressing ahead with their breakaway plans.
"There has been no change in the last two days. I do not want to make anymore statements," responded Flavio Briatore. According to Autosport, when Martin Whitmarsh was asked if a peace-deal was close, the McLaren boss responded with the marvellous put-down: "No, I don't think so. It is difficult to make progress on a Sunday when you are concentrating on going motor racing."
An even harder line was maintained by Ross Brawn.
"The decision has been made by FOTA," he said. "FOTA now has to press ahead with its ideas and plans, we can't wait until January and decide which way it is going to go. As each day passes, and each week passes, then the options for a reconciliation will reduce."
According to The Independent, 'Sources within the paddock suggest that Mosley's sudden reappearance may have been motivated by a desire to seek a quick resolution to Formula One's problems - which some attribute to his style of management - because he has got wind of a possible coup at the FIA's World Motor Sport Council meeting in Paris on Wednesday.
'In the past such things would scarcely bother a man who is proud to rely on a fearsome intellect unmatched within the sport, but insiders suggest that he has been rattled by the teams' continuing appearance of unity and their commitment to taking an option he had not dreamed they would choose.'
If Mosley is indeed mindful of the coup that will reportedly be launched in earnest against this week it may explain why he also backtracked on Sunday over comments made in an interview with the BBC in which he described a radical element of the FOTA teams as "loonies".
"We divide the teams into two camps, which are the moderates who want to talk and want a settlement, and what we call the 'loonies' who appear not to want a settlement," he told the Indie.
"It's more of a jokey reference than anything else. I don't think they are literally loonies, but I think they are a little bit immoderate in their approach."www.planet-f1.com
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Post by Genghis on Jun 24, 2009 12:06:05 GMT
author=genghis board=f1 thread Looks like FOTA have got what they wanted - Max Mosely's head in a basket: www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5398764,00.html All together - ding dong the witch is dead ;D
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Post by Genghis on Jul 9, 2009 17:54:43 GMT
What the bloody hell is going on now?
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Post by schumi on Jul 9, 2009 18:02:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2009 18:42:10 GMT
Seems like more pathetic childish posturing.
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