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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2007 22:39:48 GMT
The delusion continues over at the BSF. Apparently 'better-off' teams shouldn't help the weak teams because "that doesn't happen in football", as if that's any sensible model to run a professional sport. Even more amusing is the idea that teams should spend more than they earn because "that's professional sport". Without getting sidetracked along the lines of a 'PL is better than EL' type posting the BSF really is getting to sound more and more like I imagine the BSPA conferences to sound with so many postings based purely on whether track x or rider y is doing OK and if that is the case everything in the garden is rosy (just read through 6 pages and lost the will to post after about 2, had to carry on reading in the way people watch car crashes) Perhaps there is a case that speedway forums are on a bit of a downer but given what has happened this year (and I still think the Ipswich fiasco was just as bad as the events at Oxford) is it any wonder
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Post by donsking on Jun 26, 2007 22:53:26 GMT
Trouble is Tony, in these days of instant communication and gratification (which I still believe is a major part of speedway's downfall, unless something is done), it would appear that everyone has suddenly come to the crashing realisation that it's not really a viable sport as it stands.
We may have all thought it individually, but easy access to the net has now made it possible for us to think it collectively, and it's not a good thought!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2007 23:20:30 GMT
Trouble is Tony, in these days of instant communication and gratification (which I still believe is a major part of speedway's downfall, unless something is done), it would appear that everyone has suddenly come to the crashing realisation that it's not really a viable sport as it stands. We may have all thought it individually, but easy access to the net has now made it possible for us to think it collectively, and it's not a good thought! As I'm sure you are aware by now I am hardly an advocate for the status quo, in fact if using only my head I can see very little worth saving from speedway in its present form, obviously the heart kicks in and I can come up with all manner of arguments as to what and why things should be retained but perhaps that is the problem, speedway is living on former glories and with an overly loyal following prepared to follow it to the grave (if I had a £1 for every post that said 'better speedway with x than no speedway at all' ...) As regards the instant gratification thingy, I would think that should be one of speedways plus points, who can be bothered watching 60 odd laps of F1 when we only really care about the first lap and a couple of pit stops in between whereas a speedway race has 60 or so seconds after which if it was a bit processional we stop it and start all over again. Equally it could be argued that the multitude of media avenues nowadays has made the job of 'promoting' speedway easier and more accessable whilst requiring a little more thought than a press release to the local rag
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Post by donsking on Jun 27, 2007 1:16:14 GMT
As I'm sure you are aware by now I am hardly an advocate for the status quo, in fact if using only my head I can see very little worth saving from speedway in its present form, obviously the heart kicks in and I can come up with all manner of arguments as to what and why things should be retained but perhaps that is the problem, speedway is living on former glories and with an overly loyal following prepared to follow it to the grave (if I had a £1 for every post that said 'better speedway with x than no speedway at all' ...) As regards the instant gratification thingy, I would think that should be one of speedways plus points, who can be bothered watching 60 odd laps of F1 when we only really care about the first lap and a couple of pit stops in between whereas a speedway race has 60 or so seconds after which if it was a bit processional we stop it and start all over again. Equally it could be argued that the multitude of media avenues nowadays has made the job of 'promoting' speedway easier and more accessable whilst requiring a little more thought than a press release to the local rag Lots of things to take in there Tony; first thing that springs to mind is, what's the difference between watching the first lap and a few pitstops in F1, and watching the gate and the first corner in speedway, except for the fact that F1 relates to a much bigger audience? Yes, speedway has the opportunity to promote itself to a much bigger audience now via the net, but it doesn't try nearly hard enough. Try typing 'Lakeside speedway' into google and see what you get; for a go ahead and media savvy promoter like Duggo, shouldn't he know how to get the Lakeside homepage to the top of a google search? My reference to 'instant gratification' was about what can be more entertaining than speedway in this day and age; my parents took me to speedway when the alternative was black and white TV that shut down at night (and way past my bedtime) and the alternative was piss poor radio (that also shut down at night) or comics. Now, I could give my 5 year old an X Box or PS3 that would instantly give them motorsport games so realistic that F1 drivers use them to learn circuits they've never seen; they actually learn them so well they can get on the front row of the grid at the first time of asking, in real life. My point is, what excites today's public about speedway? Clearly, whatever it is, it's not enough to excite enough people as it did in the past, and that's the real problem. Sort that out and you've got the answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 8:03:25 GMT
Yes, speedway has the opportunity to promote itself to a much bigger audience now via the net, but it doesn't try nearly hard enough. Try typing 'Lakeside speedway' into google and see what you get; for a go ahead and media savvy promoter like Duggo, shouldn't he know how to get the Lakeside homepage to the top of a google search? I actually think there's probably not much point advertising. Speedway is not the sort of sport you're likely to stumble on (even if I did), and then prospectively go down to your local track any more than most people would for banger racing. Any resurgence needs to come from a word-of-mouth thing - from existing and former fans.
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