Jonasson suspended from all speedway for a month

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THJ has been suspended by Svemo for his non-appearance in the GP qualifiers to ride in Poland instead. His ban will last between 26th April and 24th May 2010.

www.aktuellspeedway.se

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according to SVEMO THJ is suspended because he did not have a
permit to race in the Polish league meeting the day after the GP qual.
Which was because he decided to drop out of the GP qualifications.

THJ says that he didn't have the organisation needed to be able to ride
at both meetings and he decided to skip the GP qualification in favour
of a Polish league meeting.

Svemo also says that they had notified Thomas, his Swedish Club and the
Polish Speedway Federation that THJ was not allowed to race in Poland
on that Sunday because he had skipped the GP Qualifications.


www.dn.se/sport/thomas-h-jonasson-avstangd-en-manad-1.974072

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That should keep the moaners happy if we sign him up again for next season, an immediate 1 month of absences from the Dale....oh dear!

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It's interesting to me that Svemo can suspend a rider outside of Sweden. Why is this possible? Surely he should be able to ride in meetings run by the BSPA, PZM or FIM?

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Riders must have an international licence to ride abroad, i'm assuming THJ has a SVEMO one so suspending that licence means he cant ride abroad. Other issuing authorities like the PZM or ACU usually take a dim view about issuing licences to suspended riders from another country as a means to escape the ban.

If the PZM issue a licence to THJ at the behest of Gorzow etc then SVEMO could get antsy and ban SVEMO riders from Poland or any other sanction they see fit.

Frankly its about someone slapped THJ's hand over being so beholden to Pooland, also if PZM knew he was banned by SVEMO and did nothing, that won't have gone down well in Sweden. As members of the FIM, they have to uphold decisions like this by fellow FIM members.

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I don't know the ins and outs of this particular case, but well done to SVEMO for having the balls to take action, perhaps others could follow suit in the future.

Also good to see someone stand up to Poland for once.

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Oct 14, 2009 18:56:59 GMT @erik said:

It's interesting to me that Svemo can suspend a rider outside of Sweden. Why is this possible? Surely he should be able to ride in meetings run by the BSPA, PZM or FIM?

it says in the rules:

Seriereglerna 2009 § 1.4

Svensk förare som önskar delta i utländskt lag i seriesystem utanför Sverige skall söka
starttillstånd av SVEMO.
Det utländska tävlandet, inklusive deltagande i öppna tävlingar, får inte inskränka på
förarens deltagande i det svenska seriesystemet och övrigt deltagande i mästerskapstävlingar,
samt landskamper.
Det är inte tillåtet att delta i utländskt seriesystem på ungdomslicens utfärdad av SVEMO.
Likaså är det inte tillåtet för svensk medborgare att delta i svenskt seriesystem för
ungdomsklass på icke svensk licens.
Kravet på tävlande i Sverige är absolut, vilket innebär att förare även skall vara registrerad
som medlem för klubb med serieverksamhet i den aktuella klassen.
Förarens övriga skyldigheter framgår av NT.

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what it (the parts that apply to Thj) says is that:

A Swedish rider who wishes to race in foreign leagues must apply for a starting permit by SVEMO.
The racing abroad, including open meetings, must not interfere/intrude on the riders participating in the Swedish series system, championships or other international meetings
(where there rider represents his country).

so i guess we can say now that THJ violated this rule by skipping the qualification on behalf of an abroad meeting and because of that he is penalized.

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Oct 14, 2009 22:15:23 GMT @ghostwalker said:

Oct 14, 2009 18:56:59 GMT @erik said:

It's interesting to me that Svemo can suspend a rider outside of Sweden. Why is this possible? Surely he should be able to ride in meetings run by the BSPA, PZM or FIM?

it says in the rules:

Seriereglerna 2009 § 1.4

Svensk förare som önskar delta i utländskt lag i seriesystem utanför Sverige skall söka
starttillstånd av SVEMO.
Det utländska tävlandet, inklusive deltagande i öppna tävlingar, får inte inskränka på
förarens deltagande i det svenska seriesystemet och övrigt deltagande i mästerskapstävlingar,
samt landskamper.
Det är inte tillåtet att delta i utländskt seriesystem på ungdomslicens utfärdad av SVEMO.
Likaså är det inte tillåtet för svensk medborgare att delta i svenskt seriesystem för
ungdomsklass på icke svensk licens.
Kravet på tävlande i Sverige är absolut, vilket innebär att förare även skall vara registrerad
som medlem för klubb med serieverksamhet i den aktuella klassen.
Förarens övriga skyldigheter framgår av NT.

Very good, I did not know about the permits issued by Svemo for riding abroad. I somehow thought the BSPA would issue a starting permit for a rider wishing to ride in the UK, for example.

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He was told not to ride in Poland that day, wasn't he? If so, he can't really complain about the punishment - he knew there'd be consequences. Looks like he'd rather upset the Swedes than the Poles.

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@schumi, SVEMO claims that they told him that he could not ride but some poeple claims that SVEMO never informed him or the other mentioned in the article.

IMO i think THJ (and every other Swedish rider) with or without a notification from SVEMO should know which rules that applies to him/them when he is riding in a foreign league especially since the rules are easily accessed at SVEMO's website.

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Oct 15, 2009 12:33:26 GMT @schumi said:

He was told not to ride in Poland that day, wasn't he? If so, he can't really complain about the punishment - he knew there'd be consequences. Looks like he'd rather upset the Swedes than the Poles.

As much as I like THJ I have to agree with you schumi.

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Oct 15, 2009 10:25:05 GMT @erik said:

Very good, I did not know about the permits issued by Svemo for riding abroad. I somehow thought the BSPA would issue a starting permit for a rider wishing to ride in the UK, for example.

AFAIK, licences are usually issued by the national federation of the country where a rider comes from, although it's not always the case. The rider is subject to the rules of the federation that issued the licence, and if they're suspended by that federation, it usually means they can't ride elsewhere either.

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Oct 15, 2009 14:28:45 GMT @wibblemuis said:

Oct 15, 2009 10:25:05 GMT @erik said:

Very good, I did not know about the permits issued by Svemo for riding abroad. I somehow thought the BSPA would issue a starting permit for a rider wishing to ride in the UK, for example.

AFAIK, licences are usually issued by the national federation of the country where a rider comes from, although it's not always the case. The rider is subject to the rules of the federation that issued the licence, and if they're suspended by that federation, it usually means they can't ride elsewhere either.

i also thinks a federation have the possibility to stop foreign riders from riding in their leagues.

I remember that Smederna was not allowed by SVEMO to use K. Kasprzak during the 2002 or 2003 season. I dont remember why just that Smederna was not allowed to register him.

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I know Thomas has said Poland pays him well, but they do seem to be at the root of most of his problems. I wonder how they'll treat him next year, when he won't be a junior any more?