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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 21:28:34 GMT
Are you britons cracking good at divisions, to the point where this form of odds-writing doesn't bother you at all? I need a calculator to make that 2.20 You need a new calculator then Erik because 11/5 converted into decimal is 3.20. (in betting terms) Then I'm completely lost, eleven divided by five is 2.20... So what am I not getting, how does this work?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 22:12:18 GMT
You need a new calculator then Erik because 11/5 converted into decimal is 3.20. (in betting terms) Then I'm completely lost, eleven divided by five is 2.20... So what am I not getting, how does this work? The fraction market uses two figures, the first being what you would win if you were to stake the second, ie 11/5 you win 11 if you gamble 5, but you would be returned the sum of the pair in this case 16.. the decimal market only uses one figure and is based on a 1 unit stake,and includes returns, so an even money bet is listed as 2.0.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 22:23:49 GMT
Then I'm completely lost, eleven divided by five is 2.20... So what am I not getting, how does this work? The fraction market uses two figures, the first being what you would win if you were to stake the second, ie 11/5 you win 11 if you gamble 5, but you would be returned the sum of the pair in this case 16.. the decimal market only uses one figure and is based on a 1 unit stake,and includes returns, so an even money bet is listed as 2.0. But that doesn't make sense... For me to win 11 by betting 5, the odds has to be 2.20, does it not? 5 x X = 11. X = 2.20 I'm confused
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 22:29:35 GMT
The fraction market uses two figures, the first being what you would win if you were to stake the second, ie 11/5 you win 11 if you gamble 5, but you would be returned the sum of the pair in this case 16.. the decimal market only uses one figure and is based on a 1 unit stake,and includes returns, so an even money bet is listed as 2.0. But that doesn't make sense... For me to win 11 by betting 5, the odds has to be 2.20, does it not? 5 x X = 11. X = 2.20 I'm confused You have to add the 1 unit stake to the 2.20 which makes the price 3.20. Your winnings would be 2.20 but the price is listed as 3.20..
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 22:37:56 GMT
The fraction market uses two figures, the first being what you would win if you were to stake the second, ie 11/5 you win 11 if you gamble 5, but you would be returned the sum of the pair in this case 16.. the decimal market only uses one figure and is based on a 1 unit stake,and includes returns, so an even money bet is listed as 2.0. But that doesn't make sense... For me to win 11 by betting 5, the odds has to be 2.20, does it not? 5 x X = 11. X = 2.20 I'm confused Just had a thought, maybe in Sweden you use what we call "American odds" they are not widely used here but i believe are priced minus the stake.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2009 22:55:05 GMT
I didn't think anyone read my "uninteresting facts" (I'm struggling badly for Malilla, by the way - doesn't seem to have any facts about it, uninteresting or not). i think you should write a letter to IMG/BSi and request a move of Målillas Gp to some other place that you have more info on
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 11:22:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 12:41:20 GMT
I think it's right to go along with Ullevi, it's the only stadium with potential that I can think of. Let's hope they learn from previous mistakes in terms of making a good race track. It can be done on the temporary tracks, as was seen in Copenhagen last year. Eskilstuna never pulled a decent crowd, Stockholm was always controversial with the feeling the city didn't really want Speedway at Stadion - Djurgården certainly didn't! But come to think of it, Linköping wasn't bad.
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Post by admin on May 29, 2009 13:15:25 GMT
And the thoughts of the global superstar's official crash helmet carrier, who could be too busy watching the Frampton-Stachyra-Smith (he enjoyed that one, didn't he?) crash on a permanent loop to take any notice of what's happening in Gothenburg: Crump leads the way Red hot Crump to continue to fire
Jason Crump is the man to beat again as the grand prix series heads to Sweden. He has had a first and a third and he is in scintillating form for both his Polish team and for his Swedish league club.
He opted out of the elite league over here but he is the one who seems to be revelling in that and it has certainly paid dividends for him. He is in top form and he looks fantastic at the moment and will certainly be coming into Grand Prix withy his confidence high.
A rider who has not coped well with opting out of the Elite League in Britain is Hans Andersen. He was one of the fancied racers before the season had even started but he has had a very disappointing start to the year. He has just agreed to come back to Britain to ride for Poole and all of a sudden he seems to have found some form. He has openly admitted that he has missed riding in Britain and that he has not felt as sharp or as focussed.
He had a good meeting out in Sweden last week in an individual event and here is no doubt that he is a world class rider. He has had a slow start to he season so he will be one to keep an eye on as hopefully he will be well revigorated for this meet.
I also expect to see Andreas Jonsson pushing Crump all the way. Jonsson has been pretty consistent so far and he is back in his own country. He will certainly be looking to kick on in front of his home fans. We have also had that sensational victory from Emil Sayfutdinov, the young Russian rider in the opening Grand Prix . He is only 19 and is also hanging in there up in the GP table. The American veteran Greg Hancock has also been riding very well this season and he is also going to be competitive.
Loss of form
The other big story is that the reigning world champion Nicki Pedersen has failed to make both of the grand finals so far. At this early stage in the season he is fifteen points behind Crump.
It is difficult to pinpoint the reason for his loss of form, over the last two years he has had this psychological edge over everybody including Crump. He has dominated the world championship and won in grand style.
He had a few problems with his contract with clubs on the continent due to the economic climate and that may have unsettled him. There is no lack of determination from him but certainly his performances are not what they were in the previous seasons. He is under immense pressure and he needs to eat into Crumps lead.
The wildcard for the Swedish GP is Antonio Lindback and he could certainly surprise some of the more established riders. Brazilian born but raise up in Sweden, he is a very exciting rider indeed. He came to Britain a few years ago and was quite sensational. He then lost his way, got himself into a bit of trouble and then believe it or not retired.
Lindback is now making his comeback racing in Sweden and Poland and this year he has certainly been moving in the right direction with some good performances.
He has been in the GP circuit before and knows what it is all about. - he is very fast and if he is in the right mood he is a spoiler.
Brits have to perform
The British riders have been very disappointing. I would suggest that Chris Harris must be full of confidence after winning the British final last week. He has got to be looking forward to Saturday and he has to get amongst the points. The same goes for Scott Nicholls who like Hans Andersen has returned to ride in Britain and had a good performance on Monday for Coventry.
If they don't start doing it know they are going to have a big problem - they will be so far behind and they will find it difficult to force their way into the top eight. The pressure is on the two brits and they need a big performance or they will find it tough this year.And the screaming imbecile's nodding dog's tip: Kelvin's Call
I can't really look past Crump. His all round performances have been outstanding and he is red hot favourite heading into this Grand Prix. I also think that Lindback as the wild card is very appropriate and has the ability to do very well.Taken from: www.skysports.com
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 14:48:43 GMT
i agree on that Eskilstuna had lower attendances the 2nd and 3rd year but the first year was sold out and the weather was very nice. The second year was bad weather, The third year is the big question why there were only 7000 despite good weather then but i think it was because there were no Tony Rickardsson.
And from what i've heard from speedwayfans in GBg the city of Gbg gives a d**n about the speedway in general as long as they can sit at VIP stands at the GP. Ullevi is about making more money i doubt BSI/IMG care about the racing especially much when you look at what the track looked like last year.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 14:53:30 GMT
Well it's not just about making money, it's about getting attendances and thereby importance. It's a lot bigger to be on show at Ullevi where non-speedway fans will take notice of the event than being in the woods somewhere in backwater Sweden where no-one except the speedway-people will see or hear anything about it.
Would you change the Parken round to Vojens or the Cardiff round to Poole?
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Post by admin on May 29, 2009 15:04:22 GMT
Well it's not just about making money, it's about getting attendances and thereby importance. It'll be interesting to see how attendances hold up at Ullevi year-on-year.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 21:15:01 GMT
Does Gothenburg host league speedway ?
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Post by admin on May 29, 2009 21:46:47 GMT
Does Gothenburg host league speedway ? I'm afraid not. The Kaparna team, which used to be based in Gothenburg (and for a while at Ullevi) hasn't competed in the Swedish leagues for the last couple of seasons and was forced into bankruptcy by a rider during last winter.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2009 21:49:21 GMT
Does Gothenburg host league speedway ? I'm afraid not. The Kaparna team, which used to be based in Gothenburg (and for a while at Ullevi) hasn't competed in the Swedish leagues for the last couple of seasons and was forced into bankruptcy by a rider during last winter. Thanks for that. Based on the assumption that gate 1 will be the place to be early on tomorrow, i've snapped up the 4/1 on Ulamek winning heat 2 and the 6/4 on Lindgren winning heat 4.
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