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Post by admin on Jan 4, 2009 20:32:44 GMT
Unlike Peter Oakes, who probably still thinks that the 2009 SWC final is going to be at Brandon. And according to his books in the future, it probably still will be.  Ah well, it might mean a Polish victory on foreign shale going into the record books. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 21:22:19 GMT
That's great - I think I'll go with you and the Speedway Star, thanks.  Wise call Schumi........Barrow's 1974 League record is as follows:- 36 12 2 4 - 3 0 15 1402.5 1396.5 32 That Ooogen McFrigbod knows his stuff. That's fuddled it..your figures agree with Captain Oakes'  ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 22:30:06 GMT
Wise call Schumi........Barrow's 1974 League record is as follows:- 36 12 2 4 - 3 0 15 1402.5 1396.5 32 That Ooogen McFrigbod knows his stuff. That's fuddled it..your figures agree with Captain Oakes' ;D Bloody Hell, so they do. OK, Barrow 1974 - Total 32 Match Points Three home defeats by Boston, Bradford and Eastbourne. Two home draws with Birmingham and Workington. Thirteen home wins. Three away wins at Scunthorpe, Sunderland and Weymouth. Thirteen away defeats. Do you agree so far? I'm confusing myself here.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2009 23:26:17 GMT
That's fuddled it..your figures agree with Captain Oakes' ;D Bloody Hell, so they do. OK, Barrow 1974 - Total 32 Match Points Three home defeats by Boston, Bradford and Eastbourne. Two home draws with Birmingham and Workington. Thirteen home wins. Three away wins at Scunthorpe, Sunderland and Weymouth. Thirteen away defeats. Do you agree so far? I'm confusing myself here. I agree, but that makes 34 points 16 wins at 2 points each and 2 draws at 1 point each. |
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Post by admin on Jan 4, 2009 23:58:45 GMT
Bloody Hell, so they do. OK, Barrow 1974 - Total 32 Match Points Three home defeats by Boston, Bradford and Eastbourne. Two home draws with Birmingham and Workington. Thirteen home wins. Three away wins at Scunthorpe, Sunderland and Weymouth. Thirteen away defeats. Do you agree so far? I'm confusing myself here. I agree, but that makes 34 points 16 wins at 2 points each and 2 draws at 1 point each. You're both bloody wrong. KevH is wrong in the first place and Oooogen Mcdoogen is wrong to agree with him. For a start, looking at KevH's details, it would appear that Barrow had 18 home meetings (13 wins, 2 draws and 3 defeats), but 16 away meetings (3 wins and 13 defeats). According to that, Barrow only had 34 meetings. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 0:43:30 GMT
I didn't bother counting the defeats, only the points scoring matches.
They definitely add up to 34. I can also confirm they had 36 matches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 11:57:26 GMT
You're both bloody wrong. KevH is wrong in the first place and Oooogen Mcdoogen is wrong to agree with him. For a start, looking at KevH's details, it would appear that Barrow had 18 home meetings (13 wins, 2 draws and 3 defeats), but 16 away meetings (3 wins and 13 defeats). According to that, Barrow only had 34 meetings. Yes, that was an oversight, Barrow lost 15 times on the road. They did indeed have 36 meetings, and I believe were credited with 32 points although their results suggest they should have had 34 which would have moved them above Berwick in the table, so where is the discrepancy? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 15:00:19 GMT
I just think Peter Oakes got it wrong.
The Speedway Star of the day shows them as having 34.
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Post by schumi on Jan 5, 2009 15:02:41 GMT
This is getting worse and worse. Have a look at this table for 1971: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_British_Speedway_LeagueBy my calculations, Swindon, Reading, Newport, Wimbledon, Poole, Wolverhampton, Halifax, Exeter, Glasgow and Oxford's points are all wrong. Or is it just me? |
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Post by admin on Jan 5, 2009 15:15:31 GMT
This is getting worse and worse. Have a look at this table for 1971: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_British_Speedway_LeagueBy my calculations, Swindon, Reading, Newport, Wimbledon, Poole, Wolverhampton, Halifax, Exeter, Glasgow and Oxford's points are all wrong. Or is it just me? Well, I think someone got Swindon's and Reading's final totals the wrong way around, since that table has Reading (41) lower than Swindon (40). As for the others, yes, they also look wrong. |
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Post by schumi on Jan 5, 2009 15:24:01 GMT
It's one big bloody headache, but the thing is, all the other websites that carry those results seem to agree. I guess they all just copied from each other without checking it was right first.
I've worked out what the points totals should be, but that's only assuming the other information (wins, draws and losses) is correct. Can anyone confirm those please?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 17:27:14 GMT
Swindon 41
Reading 40
Newport 38
Wimbledon 37
Poole 36
Wolves 35
Halifax 34
Exeter 32
Glasgow 31
Oxford 25
Wins, draws and losses all look ok to me, just somebody couldn't add up the totals!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 17:40:34 GMT
I just think Peter Oakes got it wrong. The Speedway Star of the day shows them as having 34. So I guess it lists them as one place (and one point) above Berwick in the final table? |
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Post by schumi on Jan 5, 2009 17:42:48 GMT
Wins, draws and losses all look ok to me, just somebody couldn't add up the totals! That's what I thought, thanks. That's another one out of the way then. I just think Peter Oakes got it wrong. The Speedway Star of the day shows them as having 34. So I guess it lists them as one place (and one point) above Berwick in the final table? Aren't things confusing enough for you already?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2009 17:43:30 GMT
It's one big bloody headache, but the thing is, all the other websites that carry those results seem to agree. I guess they all just copied from each other without checking it was right first. I've worked out what the points totals should be, but that's only assuming the other information (wins, draws and losses) is correct. Can anyone confirm those please? Belle Vue 36 17 0 1 8 1 9 1583 1217 51 Leicester 36 13 1 4 9 2 7 1490 1309 47 Coventry 36 17 0 1 6 0 12 1495 1310 46 Sheffield 36 18 0 0 3 1 14 1450 1357 43 Swindon 36 13 1 4 6 2 10 1413 1392 41 Reading 36 15 2 1 3 2 13 1438 1361 40 Hackney 36 13 0 5 4 4 10 1410 1393 38 Newport 36 17 0 1 2 0 16 1390 1416 38 Wembley 36 14 1 3 3 2 13 1433 1372 37 Wimbledon 36 16 1 1 2 0 16 1389 1415 37 Poole 36 14 1 3 3 1 14 1407 1399 36 Wolverhampton 36 13 1 4 4 0 14 1382 1412 35 Kings Lynn 36 12 2 4 4 0 14 1396.5 1406.5 34 Halifax 36 16 1 1 0 1 17 1374 1430 34 Exeter 36 14 0 4 2 0 16 1379 1424 32 Glasgow 36 14 1 3 1 0 17 1403 1401 31 Oxford 36 12 0 6 0 1 17 1263.5 1537.5 25 Cradley Heath 36 8 4 6 0 0 18 1298 1507 20 West Ham 36 9 1 8 0 0 18 1236 1571 19 |
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