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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 20:59:13 GMT
Piece in local rag tonight suggests that BSPA did consider banning Zagar for a period of time, but realised with Reading already without a no.1 rider it would do the club more harm than good so slapped a £500 fine on him instead.
I hope the BSPA monitor Zagar's attendance & attitude towards British speedway for the rest of the season, and if he goes awol again but continues to ride elsewhere then they do slap a ban on him, maybe even a 6 month one rolled over to 2007.
Someone, somewhere has got to be made an example of with picking & chosing meetings in the UK when they have contracted to ride here for the full season. In the long run making Matej that example and bringing him down a peg or two might actually do him & his career good.
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Post by admin on Aug 3, 2007 21:13:18 GMT
I'm sorry Wacks, but if true, this once again shows how the BSPA are favouring Reading over other promotions. Ipswich were not allowed to sign JBJ unless it was as a direct replacement for Loram, even though as I understand it, there averages would've accommodated JBJ and a guest facility for Loram. But Reading get a facility for Hancock and now Zagar is being allowed to get away with anything, all in the name of keeping Reading going. It's a shameful and cowardly performance from the BSPA and a licence for riders to extract the urine from British speedway. They ought to hang their heads in shame, but shame, it seems, isn't something they have. It will be interesting to see if Zagar appears for Torun tomorrow. If he does, then I would say his "headache" was actually having to travel to the UK and then back to Poland, rather than a physical headache.
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Post by donsking on Aug 3, 2007 21:15:06 GMT
Piece in local rag tonight suggests that BSPA did consider banning Zagar for a period of time, but realised with Reading already without a no.1 rider it would do the club more harm than good so slapped a £500 fine on him instead. I hope the BSPA monitor Zagar's attendance & attitude towards British speedway for the rest of the season, and if he goes awol again but continues to ride elsewhere then they do slap a ban on him, maybe even a 6 month one rolled over to 2007. Someone, somewhere has got to be made an example of with picking & chosing meetings in the UK when they have contracted to ride here for the full season. In the long run making Matej that example and bringing him down a peg or two might actually do him & his career good. Whilst I agree with your basic sentiments, can I just point out that we are actually in 2007................ ;D
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 21:31:29 GMT
oh shit yeah Donsking. There's me thinking we were back in the good old days of our transparent promotion that was BSI.
Sube - I did say the piece came from a local rag. Which it basically is just that, a rag.
Most of the speedway pieces from Dave Wright in the Evening Post are lifted from rumours/gossip off the forums. He's shot himself in the foot a few times publishing news before it had been made public by the club so they not so forthcoming with the club news where he's concerned any more.
I think it was Dave Wright who put Hancocks compasionate leave and his wife being pregnant together and got the story that Greg was taking a break from British speedway because she was ill.
Lazy local journalist who doesn't really give a shit about speedway in the town these days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 21:56:33 GMT
I'm sorry Wacks, but if true, this once again shows how the BSPA are favouring Reading over other promotions. This whole season has been such a disgraceful farce that I hardly think it matters. In fact, such a farce that I think the whole BEL should be nullified, if only because there's a serious danger of Swindon winning their first championship in 40 years which will make their fans insufferable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2007 22:18:28 GMT
Swindon fans could be the lesser of 4 evils. It's either going to be them, Coventry, Poole or P'boro and we know we'll probably have to wait another 40 years before Swindon win it again. I've had to edit as the thought stuck in my throat first time around, but out of those 4 I think I'd want Swindon to win the league.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2007 8:07:34 GMT
I'm sorry Wacks, but if true, this once again shows how the BSPA are favouring Reading over other promotions. Ipswich were not allowed to sign JBJ unless it was as a direct replacement for Loram, even though as I understand it, there averages would've accommodated JBJ and a guest facility for Loram. But Reading get a facility for Hancock and now Zagar is being allowed to get away with anything, all in the name of keeping Reading going. It's a shameful and cowardly performance from the BSPA and a licence for riders to extract the urine from British speedway. They ought to hang their heads in shame, but shame, it seems, isn't something they have. It will be interesting to see if Zagar appears for Torun tomorrow. If he does, then I would say his "headache" was actually having to travel to the UK and then back to Poland, rather than a physical headache. I realise two wrongs don't make a right but Oxo got away with far worse than this when covering for Dryml. Don't get me wrong though - if Reading were a thriving promotion I would fully advocate a ban - I think Matej has let us down big time. But do you really want Reading taken to the brink of closure by enforcing the rulebook to the letter Subby - that puts you in the same club as SCB on the kiddies BSF gang. The license for riders take the pee comes from the ruling on Dryml and until there are specific provisions in the rulebook to take this sort of thing into account then the ruling authorities will always be open to accusations such as those you are levelling. Do you not think it is a good idea to keep Reading afloat then? Perhaps you would like to see Mark Legg's bank account crucified on a principle? I find it strange that Ipswich would want to sign Jensen and keep paying top guests when they have no chance of making the play offs, and were getting reasonable crowds with the side they had. I guess Jensen would not be as expensive as some guests - and that putting him in the side instead of them is a wholly sensible thing. It may cost the Witches some competitiveness away - but their homr form has remained pretty good and they save money. This is hardly in the same league as Reading Subby - I beleive you require some perspective here. We have no number one, guests on a Monday are usually highly limited and losing our number two as well would have left Reading totally uncompetitive. The EL is a total and utter mess this year spawned from the self interested clubs getting the breaks and points limits they needed. To hae two sides line up unable to strengthen to the limit, another packed with riders on high averages, is rediculous. Next to full employment of riders on 6+ is absolutely asking for it. The natural consequence of these rules is that Oxford died, Reading were pretty close to joining them and more than a few clubs are not making a penny piece. Unlike a lot of the riders who have done very nicely out of this arrangement.... Big and radical steps are needed. I'm not sure that Reading are best placed for the EL.
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Post by Genghis on Aug 4, 2007 11:46:25 GMT
Sub,
On this occasion, I concur entirely with Racer X.
You could say the closure of Elite League Oxford has given me a fresh perspective on such things.
If a club such as Reading are receiving a helping hand in keeping them afloat, then what's the problem.
In case you haven't noticed, BSI have left the building at Smallmead. The new promoter deserves a medal for coming in and picking up the sorry debris that John Poshbloke left behind.
So, yes, Reading are getting a helping hand, but so what?
And Racer X, yes I hope that Reading join Oxford in the Premier League next season. The sooner you get out of the Elite League madhouse, the better.
The racing at Oxford at the moment is brilliant. We had one race last night when Lee Smethills and Andrew Bargh went either side of Karlis Ezergailis - brilliant stuf, and far better than some of the turgid crap that the EL serves up.
Racing in the CL and PL easily outstrips the EL - a league which is no longer value for money for the fans. £15 for 15 shit races - that's what the Elite League currently gives you.
All the best Rob
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2007 11:49:30 GMT
Do you not think it is a good idea to keep Reading afloat then? Perhaps you would like to see Mark Legg's bank account crucified on a principle? I think it was a fantastic idea to keep Reading afloat ;D and a brave investment to make when the club really was on it's knees and gasping for breath. But RacerX, do you honsestly think that Mark Legg is the money man behind the takeover? I don't really want to get into the wrongs & rights of the rule book etc, I don't understand most of it for one thing. But I do want to go to speedway and be entertained, whether it's right of not, lining up a 6pt PL rider for an EL heat leader isn't going to produce entertainment at that level. I enjoyed Wednesday's meeting probably more than any other at Smallmead this year even though I knew we were on a hiding to nothing. I think despite the loss, many other Reading fans went home feeling happy & entertained as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2007 15:52:51 GMT
I realise two wrongs don't make a right but Oxo got away with far worse than this when covering for Dryml. I think having an ongoing facility for a rider who was never going to be riding beyond the end of May is just as bad as the Dryml situation. However, desperate times call for desperate measures. It frankly though, demonstrates once again what an absolute farce the sport has become, and one I refuse to keep propping-up with my attendance. The license for riders take the pee comes from the ruling on Dryml Well to be honest, I think the rot set-in at the end of the 1970s when White City had a season-long facility for a rider they'd never signed. Then there was Poole who did the same with Marvyn Cox, and I'm sure there have been other examples.
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Post by schumi on Aug 6, 2007 19:19:30 GMT
Well, Zagar is riding tonight, at any rate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2007 22:45:54 GMT
Well, Zagar is riding tonight, at any rate. Yep Matej turned up and looked like he had received the perverbial rocket up the arse. Smiling on the pre-meeting parade lap, looking interested & hungry on track, acknowledging the crowd after heat wins, popping wheelies, signing autograpsh, and turned up at the post meeting press conference where he gave his side of the story. Apparently he's been suffering from a virus and the after effects of his crash in Copenhagen. Somedays feels rough with headaches and doesn't want to travel and score badly for Reading. Disagreed with the Reading promotion & BSPA in that he doesn't prefer riding in Poland to England and that Torun had arranged their fixture last wednesday before Reading re-arranged theirs. PZM must be wrong as well then. Just lip service? Who knows, but there seemed plenty of Reading fans in the bar after the meeting willing to forgive & forget. As I've said before Matej as a racer can be fantastic to watch, there were moments on track tonight of the racer we all like to see, but I think I'll still reserve judgement until his attendance becomes a bit more stable, and to see whether he turns up at Eastbourne for us, another away track he doesn't enjoy riding at.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2007 23:00:50 GMT
Just lip service? Who knows, but there seemed plenty of Reading fans in the bar after the meeting willing to forgive & forget. Such is the fickleness of fans.
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Post by schumi on Aug 7, 2007 7:27:31 GMT
Should just mention how pleased I am to see Travis' score from last night - 11 points from 5 rides.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2007 10:23:08 GMT
I have to say that Matej was very convincing about his absences and the Polish meeting being arranged before Reading's.
If he was fibbing there's role waiting for him in theatre!
Schumi - Trav has looked very poor for a few weeks , but a grippier track seemed to suit him down to the ground, despite his saying it was difficult!
Reading have a tough end to the season with Matej as no 1 as Janusz as second best. As good as those two riders are those are roles that are almost certainly too much for either...
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