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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 14:31:02 GMT
So, we're back to the situation where it's likely that the Sea Pikeys will get away with their underhand tactics. Swindon won't protest, it's well documented that they have a good working relationship with Poole, I doubt P'boro will protest seeing as they gave Poole permission to speak to Hans in the first place. So we're left with the rest. Bobby D won't protest, he'll be too busy defending his track prep to notice. Ippo maybe will think "fuck it" following on from the Parsons saga, BV probably don't even know who Hans Andersen is, so that leaves CVS, Stanley & Sandhu, promoters of teams who at present look very likely for a play-off place. Can they do anything to object to this signing, do they care? If that's how good you are at forecasting, I won't ask you to fill out my lottery ticket  |
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Post by schumi on May 18, 2009 14:45:54 GMT
I doubt P'boro will protest seeing as they gave Poole permission to speak to Hans in the first place. Did they? |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 14:53:05 GMT
I doubt P'boro will protest seeing as they gave Poole permission to speak to Hans in the first place. Did they? Well according the the speedwaygp website, yes they did: HANS A PIRATE AGAIN?
Hans Andersen is poised to return to the British Elite League - with early-season strugglers Poole.
Poole chief Matt Ford has agreed terms with the Danish Grand Prix star, who finished last season with Coventry after a well-documented split with parent club Peterborough.
Andersen, who rode for the Pirates in 2001 and 2002, admitted recently that his poor start to the 2009 Grand Prix campaign was partly down to the fact that he was not riding enough.
Ford said on the Poole website: "We have been interested in bringing Hans back for a while, but a fortnight ago it looked as though his parent club Peterborough were going to use him.
"But their upturn in form has made it nigh on impossible for them to accommodate him in their 1 to 7. Therefore they have given us, and other teams, permission to talk to Hans and we have reached agreement with Hans to ride for us.
"However at this stage we cannot 'jump the gun' too quickly as we will require acceptance of any re-declared 1 to 7. I do not envisage any major problems but I am not running away with things at this stage."
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 15:11:12 GMT
With a bit of luck Mr Frost might sell HA.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 15:16:25 GMT
I'd imagine this news is a bit "premature" since it isn't on the Poole website, or - it seems - any other medium. Perhaps Poole haven't quite got a dot on every "i" or a cross on every "t" for this little plan. Could yet turn to dust - all redeclarations have to be okayed by the BSPA management committee. 17.4.2 is the rule, hopefully the BSPA MC will show they do have some integrity and not a little backbone by implementing it. 17.4.2 The BSPA MC shall monitor all proposed moves and be satisfied they are in the best interests of the sport and have sole responsibility to approve all Declared and Re-Declared Team Line-Ups, notifying all such approvals on the appropriate paperwork. |
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Post by admin on May 18, 2009 15:30:03 GMT
Can anyone clarify this rule which keeps croping up about a rider obtaining a new ave based on a minimum of 8 league meetings? Is that just for assessed riders, is it for PL only, or does it include riders in all leagues who obtained a CMA last season? There never was such a rule, it was an item in the minutes of the BSPA AGM. This particular minute stated: "utilising a minimum of eight (8) matches should be used to monitor a proposed team change". To me, that means that the BSPA management committee would monitor averages when it came to re-declarations and check for any dubious anomalies, such as Joe Screen missing his twelfth meeting and a new, higher average. The BSPA management committee would, according to the minute, monitor Screen's average after eight (8) meetings and his pre-existing average and decide whether to allow a proposed re-declaration. However, on top of that you have the "best interests of the sport" that the BSPA also takes into account (although they often seem to have a weird idea about what is in the sport's "best interests"). I guess the argument for allowing this is that it isn't in the best interests of the sport to have Poole doing so badly. It all smells rotten to me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 15:35:08 GMT
So, we're back to the situation where it's likely that the Sea Pikeys will get away with their underhand tactics. Swindon won't protest, it's well documented that they have a good working relationship with Poole, I doubt P'boro will protest seeing as they gave Poole permission to speak to Hans in the first place. So we're left with the rest. Bobby D won't protest, he'll be too busy defending his track prep to notice. Ippo maybe will think "fuck it" following on from the Parsons saga, BV probably don't even know who Hans Andersen is, so that leaves CVS, Stanley & Sandhu, promoters of teams who at present look very likely for a play-off place. Can they do anything to object to this signing, do they care? If that's how good you are at forecasting, I won't ask you to fill out my lottery ticket Hmmm Intriguing.  You could be changing your username shortly. Make things difficult for the pikeys and I'll nominate you for this weeks Mutts Nutts, make it easy for them and it'll be FOTW. |
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Post by admin on May 18, 2009 15:46:20 GMT
Speaking about rules and regulations, has a "Supplementary Regulation" been issued allowing an increase in the average limit? As it stands, assuming a 5% weighting on Andersen's 2008 average, my guess at Poole's re-declared line-up isn't far away from 42 points: H Andersen..9.62 C Holder..8.47 B Pedersen..6.93 J Screen..6.03 D Davidsson..3.65 C Stonehewer..3.64 P Hurry..3.59 That little lot adds up to 41.93. Averages taken from: www.british-speedway.co.uk |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 17:00:03 GMT
This looks a right mess. Now, can anyone explain to me why P'boro are talking about how they allowed other clubs to speak to Hans Andersen? Did they buy him off a slave ship in the Liverpool docks a couple of centurys ago or what?
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Post by admin on May 18, 2009 17:09:03 GMT
This looks a right mess. Now, can anyone explain to me why P'boro are talking about how they allowed other clubs to speak to Hans Andersen? Did they buy him off a slave ship in the Liverpool docks a couple of centurys ago or what? Because in the arcane world of British speedway riders become assets of clubs. Peterborough didn't purchase Andersen from a slave trader in the docks of Liverpool or Bristol a couple of centuries ago, they bought him from Poole a few seasons ago. Once an overseas rider races twelve meetings for a British club he becomes their asset. And he remains their asset forever and a day, unless they sell him on. I know it's ridiculous, you know it's ridiculous, but there you go. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 17:39:08 GMT
This looks a right mess. Now, can anyone explain to me why P'boro are talking about how they allowed other clubs to speak to Hans Andersen? Did they buy him off a slave ship in the Liverpool docks a couple of centurys ago or what? Because in the arcane world of British speedway riders become assets of clubs. Peterborough didn't purchase Andersen from a slave trader in the docks of Liverpool or Bristol a couple of centuries ago, they bought him from Poole a few seasons ago. Once an overseas rider races twelve meetings for a British club he becomes their asset. And he remains their asset forever and a day, unless they sell him on. I know it's ridiculous, you know it's ridiculous, but there you go. Ah... thanks Sub. Very informative as always, but what a crap (and surely illegal if challenged) system. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 17:41:06 GMT
Oh yes Erik.
It was Tony Rickardsson who threatened to rock the boat when Ipswich 'owned' him and wouldn't let him talk to other clubs when they couldn't use him. Ippo soon backed down when legal action was mentioned by TR, so promoters are now very cautious at being too sniffy at holding onto their own assets, however much they mightn't like them going out to strengthen other clubs.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 18:26:31 GMT
Oh yes Erik. It was Tony Rickardsson who threatened to rock the boat when Ipswich 'owned' him and wouldn't let him talk to other clubs when they couldn't use him. Ippo soon backed down when legal action was mentioned by TR, so promoters are now very cautious at being too sniffy at holding onto their own assets, however much they mightn't like them going out to strengthen other clubs. Good ol' Tone. Knew right from right |
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Post by braveheart on May 19, 2009 8:19:03 GMT
From what the Coventry fans were saying in the bar last night, Hans would only ride for Poole if Bjarne got paid properly.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2009 8:35:12 GMT
What do you mean BH? Paid for the actual points he scores rather than the back handers he's (allegedly ) being given. ;D |
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